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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Jan 31, 2011 0:49:17 GMT 1
Cusco Peru - Machu Picchu date:10-22-10 Machu Picchu for those who dont know its the sacred city of the Incas.Theres been many many sightings over this area & over many of years.Many believe its used for runways for Ufo's.I believe its one of the best footages ever to date.I dont believe its Cgi also.Would appreciate Mods & members thoughts? [youtube] www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieONqr4JBOc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Jan 31, 2011 9:42:32 GMT 1
Before the object is sighted.You will notice there is actually a few of them hiding in the cloud cover.This is what caught the observers eye. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by meldrew on Jan 31, 2011 10:53:27 GMT 1
there's definitely something there floyd, I looked at it on large screen with a mag glass but I could not make out any defining shape, but I did notice how dirty my screen was lol at 2 mins in is the best view the cloud opens up which is quite often the case with ufos, could be the plasma effect which dispels vapour and ionises the surrounding air, so they say.
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Jan 31, 2011 21:20:12 GMT 1
Did you notice Mel? How many light flickers there actually was in that cloud cover.I counted about 6.From one end to the other mate.The object that stuck its nose out was deffinately a solid object.Didnt resemble a saucer shape.But was weird never the less.Spooky lol.Looked similar to the Ufo's in War of the Worlds. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by uforn on Jan 31, 2011 21:35:37 GMT 1
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Post by meldrew on Jan 31, 2011 22:42:03 GMT 1
judge you scream cgi at all videos ;D give us the reason it screams cgi, have you got a pop up cgi screamer ;D
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Jan 31, 2011 22:48:57 GMT 1
The footage was filmed in hes Airliner seat constantly?Cgi Judge dont think so on this one mate. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by uforn on Jan 31, 2011 22:51:55 GMT 1
judge you scream cgi at all videos ;D give us the reason it screams cgi, have you got a pop up cgi screamer ;D No lol But show me one video that doesnt look to be manipulated or cant be identified as something we know ? The whole video looks cgi, from the wing of the plane to the flash the UFO emits. Seriously this is really poor footage and not even worth looking into imo
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Post by mike69 on Jan 31, 2011 22:56:26 GMT 1
same work ;(
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Post by uforn on Jan 31, 2011 22:56:42 GMT 1
But hey your right in a sense, i dont take video as evidence, as its easily manipulated.
In fact youtube is the biggest source of HOAX material on UFO's
The sooner people realise this the quicker we can move on ;D
What do you want me to say meldrew? That this is really good footage and is worth spending a couple of days on?
I dont think so so im not even going to bother at all
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Jan 31, 2011 23:07:36 GMT 1
I reckon the footage wasnt bad from that long distance Judge.Would be hard to get good pic quality.Its a long way down lol.How could someone possibly do Cgi on this?in a real aeroplane liner.Exscuse me captain i just want to borrow your plane for a second lol add some Cgi on my new movie footage lmao.Wheres your reason where you doubt this aint a real plane? flying in the air.You can actually here voices in the footage Judge of people on board. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by uforn on Jan 31, 2011 23:46:24 GMT 1
I reckon the footage wasnt bad from that long distance Judge.Would be hard to get good pic quality.Its a long way down lol.How could someone possibly do Cgi on this?in a real aeroplane liner.Exscuse me captain i just want to borrow your plane for a second lol add some Cgi on my new movie footage lmao.Wheres your reason where you doubt this aint a real plane? flying in the air.You can actually here voices in the footage Judge of people on board. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd Can the voices etc not be added in? They were in the third video on the Jerusalem footage. How can they do cgi on this floyd? Easy they take an image or video frame and edit it to what they want. Dont you watch movies? Most of them have cgi enhancements. The wing of the plane in the video looks totaly cgi generated it doesnt look real. The UFO well..... to me has been added in.... But if you want to believe this ok Im no expert tho this is just my opinion
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Post by meldrew on Feb 1, 2011 0:00:45 GMT 1
its not all that easy to do cgi, you need real gear to do it, but, if I was taking a video like that I would pan around the cabin for reference, get some witnesses on tape with the time/date on the film to show no editing, judge I only asked you why you say its cgi in your opinion, so that we can learn what to look for in such instances, and the wings look alright to me ;D
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Post by uforn on Feb 1, 2011 7:35:12 GMT 1
its not all that easy to do cgi, you need real gear to do it, but, if I was taking a video like that I would pan around the cabin for reference, get some witnesses on tape with the time/date on the film to show no editing, judge I only asked you why you say its cgi in your opinion, so that we can learn what to look for in such instances, and the wings look alright to me ;D Ok sorry im tired here Ive been spending my time on the video mike posted on the Jerusalem video which is much more convincing. You can get editing software for nothing meldrew youve just got to know how to use it. Assuming that the video is real, the flashes of light in the clouds could be put in quite easily with the right software. The whole video looks staged, watch it in full HD full screen. It cries cgi, the way it comes into view then dissapears really looks computer generated to me. The little flashes of light look like theyve been just put there / computer generated. I really dont see anything in this video that warrants loads of work. Why did the guy that did the video point out and give a statement that no flight simulaters were used in this video? Why did he feel the need to point this out? Reason is because its staged and cgi. They do this in order to confuse you, it adds to the realism, they give you something to go off like the numbers on the wing from 2 video's, so that it lends credibility to the footage. You wouldnt need to do this if it were genuine, you wouldnt have to point it out in the first place Again im no expert but when youve watched millions of videos of UFO's and what is claimed to be real genuine footage by the poster you can more or less guarantee its fake
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Post by uforn on Feb 1, 2011 7:54:50 GMT 1
If you guys think this is real, go and ask the poster of the video loads of questions, bring his / hers answers here
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Feb 1, 2011 10:02:35 GMT 1
You could be right Judge.But you could be wrong.Guess will never know again?Mel said a good point.That made me think today on the pasengers on board.After filming this footage.Why didnt he turn the camera around & film in the plane with people aboard?just after this incident.Maybe he didnt think to at the time.But he did film the wing again on the plane before landing?And i dont understand why you think the pic quality is poor?That distance away has to be atleast 80 to 100 miles away or maybe more.And i couldnt see anything wrong with the wing?like you said. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by uforn on Feb 1, 2011 21:37:29 GMT 1
You could be right Judge.But you could be wrong.Guess will never know again?Mel said a good point.That made me think today on the pasengers on board.After filming this footage.Why didnt he turn the camera around & film in the plane with people aboard?just after this incident.Maybe he didnt think to at the time.But he did film the wing again on the plane before landing?And i dont understand why you think the pic quality is poor?That distance away has to be atleast 80 to 100 miles away or maybe more.And i couldnt see anything wrong with the wing?like you said. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd I never said the picture quality was poor floyd, i said the video itself was poor. Nearly but not quite as bad as this video:
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Post by uforn on Feb 1, 2011 21:46:55 GMT 1
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Post by meldrew on Feb 3, 2011 18:03:46 GMT 1
report NEW HD VERSION LINK www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjfsuB... On January 1. 2011 a couple of medical professionals on a trip to Peru, took the first early morning flight on a small Cesna aircraft to view the famous Nazca Lines. This video was taken from the plane window during the viewing of the lines. The weather was absolutely perfect, as it usually is in this part of the desert. From out of no where, the plane was overtaken by a large dark dense set of clouds. The passengers described fear as the captain of the plane asked them to brace themselves against the immenent turbulance. The small craft was soon entirely engulfed by the clouds. The man videoing the Nazca Lines kept the camera rolling as they passed through the clouds. Unknown to the tourist was the disk that passed unsafely close to the plane. He did not notice it until they returned to their room later on in the morning and viewed the tape. He was so shocked at what he had seen that he uploaded segments of the flight and shared them to be viewed by others. At this time the tourist is still in Peru for another 10 days and will not be available for questions until he comes back to the US.
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Post by Electra on Feb 4, 2011 5:22:30 GMT 1
There is one thing that stands out about the wing, that leads me to think that this is cgi, is the lack of dirt, not a speck in sight.
Or is it some kind of new dirt repelling metal. lol
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Post by meldrew on Feb 4, 2011 17:15:35 GMT 1
There is one thing that stands out about the wing, that leads me to think that this is cgi, is the lack of dirt, not a speck in sight. Or is it some kind of new dirt repelling metal. lol dirty wings ? don't know what to say
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Post by Electra on Feb 4, 2011 22:19:05 GMT 1
Hi Meldrew. What I am saying is that it is odd that the wings of the plane look too clean. I would expect for a plane to be travelling through the air it would pick up some dirt. as in the followimg images. PhotoBucket. Dirty WingsFlicker: Dirty Wings
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Post by uforn on Feb 5, 2011 2:54:46 GMT 1
Hi Meldrew. What I am saying is that it is odd that the wings of the plane look too clean. I would expect for a plane to be travelling through the air it would pick up some dirt. as in the followimg images. PhotoBucket. Dirty WingsFlicker: Dirty WingsVery good point electra, the wing just look so fake, and i dont understand why the poster of the video felt the need to say it wasnt a simulator My guess is it was which would explain why it looks so fake and why the's no dirt on the wing, hence cgi, you can tell from the pics you posted links to that they are real
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Post by meldrew on Feb 5, 2011 3:11:23 GMT 1
how can you say clean wings mean its cgi ? it might be new or just cleaned or has been sprayed with amway wing shine ;D ;D
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Post by uforn on Feb 5, 2011 3:26:00 GMT 1
how can you say clean wings mean its cgi ? it might be new or just cleaned or has been sprayed with amway wing shine ;D ;D It doesnt look real, the ship in the film titanic wasnt real either. It just looks cgi all of the video, and the fact it was pointed out it wasnt a simulator sets bells ringing. Ive watched thousands of video's of UFO's after a while you start to get a good idea of what looks real and what doesnt. Simulator: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq4Gvwy48NE&feature=relatedNotice how it look very similar to the video in the op? Also in the op video when it decends and you see the ground you can see its very clear with the sun shining were is the glare off the wing? like seen in this real video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP7gzbaJb8s&feature=related
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Post by meldrew on Feb 5, 2011 3:39:06 GMT 1
this is why we need reasons to comments, it has never occurred to me that the wings give it away, I would like to add I never said it wasn't cgi I just wanted to know why you thought it was, so what about the second video ?
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Post by uforn on Feb 5, 2011 3:46:11 GMT 1
The second video just looks like a hole / break in the clouds if you ask me. There's no solid definition or anything.
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Post by Electra on Feb 5, 2011 3:59:07 GMT 1
how can you say clean wings mean its cgi ? it might be new or just cleaned or has been sprayed with amway wing shine ;D ;D Lol, I can see little old ladies, Hilda Ogden style, polishing the wings in song. ;D Clean wings doesn't mean it is CGI, that is what it suggests to me. The plane had supposedly been in the air for some time, therefore it should have picked up some grime along the way. But the one in the OP is spottless.
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Post by meldrew on Feb 5, 2011 4:20:08 GMT 1
a long long time ago I saw a tv program maybe tomorrows world and it said that aircraft were kept spotless as any dirt will produce drag which can cost a lot of money in terms of fuel used, so you could be right with the hilda ogdens elctcra
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Feb 5, 2011 14:10:19 GMT 1
Still cannot be prooved it is cgi? A good Airline company always services & maintains & especially cleans there planes lol. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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