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Post by uforn on May 26, 2011 13:42:43 GMT 1
Are We The Descendants of Ancient Aliens Although we must realize that the following theories concerning ancient astronauts are very interesting, there is no solid evidence supporting their existence. There is, however, enough room for the interpretation of data and the lack of it thereof, to make the idea of ancient astronauts a fascinating topic for conversation. This article will attempt to separate theory from truth as painlessly as possible. There are those who believe that aliens visited the earth in ancient times, leaving an indelible mark on the development of technologies, cultures and religions. Writers such as Erich von Däniken, Zecharia Sitchin, Robert K. G. Temple, and David Icke have popularized these theories, which are usually reserved for the realm of science fiction. Supporters of the ancient astronauts theory do have some tools to play with, as they argue that supposed gaps in historical and archaeological records as well as absent or incomplete explanations of historical or archaeological data point to the existence of ancient astronauts. Out of place artifacts is one argument supporting the theory. This refers to archaeological artifacts that are anachronistic and/or beyond the presumed technical capabilities of the cultures with which they are associated. (At the very least, some primitive artwork such as that depicted above, does raise some legitimate questions.) Counter arguments by conventional academics include the fact that gaps in knowledge do not necessarily mean that there is only one conclusion to draw from them. Francis Crick, co-discoverer of DNA’s double helix structure, has his own theory based on the extra-terrestrial seeding of planet earth with blue-green algae. According to his belief, the aliens had a purpose, and it was to insure the continuation of life. As to how they could have performed such a momentous task, Crick believes unmanned shuttles could have accomplished the job on Earth as well as other planets. Proponents of ancient astronaut theories believe that the ancient astronauts acted as a “mother culture”. The television series, Ancient Aliens, that was presented last year on the History channel features the diverse theories on this intriguing subject. This is, if nothing else, food for thought, and enough to make any self-respecting alien want to “phone home.” Source: amog.com/offbeat/101297-descendants-ancient-astronauts/
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Post by forddavidjunior on Jul 18, 2012 14:45:35 GMT 1
In the beleaf I have and have endured is that we arrived here from interstella war.The war accured on Serius six.The survivers arrived here some seventy million years ago,What was avaluable for us was Lizard King,A thirty five foot long jungle lizard who was asked and giuded by Father to walk into the water to kick of the evoulution of mammels.As far as I know there was only 1083 survivers.Father has been giuding this planet for two billion years.
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Post by uforn on Jul 19, 2012 14:52:11 GMT 1
In the beleaf I have and have endured is that we arrived here from interstella war.The war accured on Serius six.The survivers arrived here some seventy million years ago,What was avaluable for us was Lizard King,A thirty five foot long jungle lizard who was asked and giuded by Father to walk into the water to kick of the evoulution of mammels.As far as I know there was only 1083 survivers.Father has been giuding this planet for two billion years. Hi forddavidjunior do you have any evidence/info to back up what you believe ? as Id like to see it I dont recall hearing about this before.
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Post by allan53 on Aug 27, 2012 2:23:50 GMT 1
Supporters of the ancient astronauts theory do have some tools to play with, as they argue that supposed gaps in historical and archaeological records as well as absent or incomplete explanations of historical or archaeological data point to the existence of ancient astronauts. I'm sorry, I'm confused: how do gaps in historical/archaeological records imply extraterrestrial visitation in ancient times? If anything I would think that technologically advanced visitation would be really well recorded, if nothing else in myths and wall carvings etc? Interesting notion, though. I'm reminded of a theory that life on Earth was 'seeded' by bacteria clinging to an asteroid that landed billions of years ago. Not a biologist, so I'm not going to try to argue or compare, but seems along the same line? I suppose if we accept this theory as given for a moment, the question becomes: did the ancient astronauts interbreed intentionally (ie come here planning to), and if so why? And do they maintain an interest in their descendants, either scientific or otherwise?
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Post by meldrew on Aug 27, 2012 10:20:56 GMT 1
Supporters of the ancient astronauts theory do have some tools to play with, as they argue that supposed gaps in historical and archaeological records as well as absent or incomplete explanations of historical or archaeological data point to the existence of ancient astronauts. I'm sorry, I'm confused: how do gaps in historical/archaeological records imply extraterrestrial visitation in ancient times? If anything I would think that technologically advanced visitation would be really well recorded, if nothing else in myths and wall carvings etc? Interesting notion, though. I'm reminded of a theory that life on Earth was 'seeded' by bacteria clinging to an asteroid that landed billions of years ago. Not a biologist, so I'm not going to try to argue or compare, but seems along the same line? I suppose if we accept this theory as given for a moment, the question becomes: did the ancient astronauts interbreed intentionally (ie come here planning to), and if so why? And do they maintain an interest in their descendants, either scientific or otherwise? this isn't a very good article to be honest, the gaps in historical records is a good point to bring up, when I have debated this in the past it was suggested that the earth was seeded by 5 different hybrids, so basically the earth is a laboratory and the aliens are the scientists, the aliens come back here say every millennia, to check on their big experiment and perhaps give them a technology boost to help the race kick on a bit, this is when mankind makes big leaps in its development, when the aliens are not here keeping an eye on things mankind slips back a few notches on the evolution ladder, and the advances made are wiped out, this would be the gap. ( I think)
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Post by ronologic on Sept 15, 2012 16:17:10 GMT 1
I don’t think we are the descendants of aliens, but maybe the result of genetic engineering at the hands(?) of aliens. As we, the human race, are now capable of genetically engineering any forms of life found on this planet, I find that any life form capable of interstellar travel to arrive here should at a minimum be able to alter any of the simian species to benefit their needs, be it research or whatever.
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Post by allan53 on Oct 17, 2012 5:27:56 GMT 1
Then I guess the question becomes 'if we are the result of alien interference, then why would they do that'? What would be the purpose? When we alter species, we do it to improve fruit production, reduction in disease susceptibility and such forth, all with the end goal of better suiting our needs as a species.
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Post by blucottoncandy on Oct 18, 2012 20:45:57 GMT 1
The main problem with attempting to prove if we are the descendants of Ancient Aliens is the mere fact that there is no “smoking gun” of evidence that definitively says yes… we do originate… What we do have, however, is a lot of pseudoscientific evidence in our modern world that many claim and believe as scientific, but does not adhere to a valid method of scientific testing. Meaning it lacks supporting evidence, credibility or plausibility and cannot be reliably validated. So, unless we uncover new evidence, which is happening every day, we are asked to make up our own mind, and I implore every person to make up their own mind based on what evidence we do have. Look at the evidence and as always… you decide. Don’t let the mainstream media, ancient aliens TV show, or this forum decide for you… you decide…. Here is just one possible scenario that I personally have looked into briefly and a little bit of my thought process... One of the more common theories out there is that an ancient race of aliens modified the DNA of a primate to create a human… thereby becoming be a “worker bee” to mine gold for them to be exported away to save their planet from overheating… could this be true? I was always taught…. Man evolved from a primate… but there was always a “missing link” hmmm Does the fact that we have never found this missing link mean this could be true?... No… Knowing what we know about DNA and genetic manipulation… does this technology exist? Absolutely it does… but does this mean that our DNA was altered? It tells us it is possible… but on its own…no.. What about using metals as a shield to reflect the rays of the sun? I am no atmospheric expert..even though my resume says I am (ha) But… considering we currently use aluminum to do this exact same thing on a smaller scale in our ovens… I guess in theory… it is possible to blast gold flakes into our atmosphere to reflect the rays of the sun… Is this alone proof…. Not hardly Did the idea that these aliens had a need for gold… somehow mean…. We as humans should value this metal? It is an interesting concept… but… does this mean it is proof? No… What if we look at the ultimate history book… the bible… specifically at Genesis 1:27… which says… God created man in his own image… now… think about when the bible was written…. who wrote it… what they knew… what they understood… what was relevant to them at the time… we know it was passed down verbally for generation before ever being written down… but… let’s assume… for a moment… that an ancient race of aliens did modify the DNA of a primate to create a human … not knowing how to define this technology… could our ancestors have mistaken this… or should I say…used words to describe this event… in a manner that made sense to them at the time? Could an ancient race of aliens be mistaken for God? I can see how people make that claim… but all that is speculation… so…is that alone proof? No… Is there any… so called hard coded evidence to indicate mining ever took place? Well many believe this to have been the case… one such researcher… Michael Tellinger seems to think so… www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyWplRoVAccAnd then we can find things like this on the web… www.viewzone.com/adamscalendar.htmlBut are they true?? I don’t know… they make convincing arguments.. is this alone proof? No… but I am beginning to see how others might think this to be true… What happens when we add all of the circumstantial evidence together… what does that mean? It means what it means… it is possible… and a case can be made… but it really boils down to your own personally belief… I know what I believe.... do you? But what happens when you consider.. Göbekli Tepe en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_TepePumapunku en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puma_Punku Yonaguni en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YonaguniDerinkuyu en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DerinkuyuCarnac stones en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnac_stonesStonehenge en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StonehengeGreat Pyramid of Giza en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_PyramidBosnian pyramids en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_pyramidChogha Zanbil en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chogha_ZanbilAnd a list of 30+ more ancient ruins I could post…. Now things become a lot more interesting…. Bottom line… if you are looking for the smoking gun…. You will never find it unless some unforeseen occurs….
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Post by meldrew on Oct 19, 2012 7:15:24 GMT 1
good post with links there blu.
it is indeed down to the individual to decide, one of the problems we have is our scientific community don't know, so they have a guess at it too, and because they don't want to go down a certain route they ignore it, and then through their buddy buddy system of peer review what they say is underwritten as the only real explanation.
we know the scientific community get it wrong sometimes, I don't believe a tribe of humans walked out of the jungle in central Africa and populated the world, why are we the youngest race of animal on the planet and also the cleverest, that doesn't make sense.
its not just about artefacts, its also about the whole evolution of mankind, and the reasons behind why we are so different to all the other animals on this planet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 23:12:32 GMT 1
Gotta remember that Ancient Aliens is a theory there is no actual proof. While I do find the subject fascinating its best to look at it closely.
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Post by ronologic on Apr 5, 2015 18:38:36 GMT 1
alienorigins, I agree that "its best to look at it closely."
If one seriously desires to educate oneself may I suggest starting research on the subject from a point of academia, and not from all the hypothetical authors, as I have read their works(?) and found more reprinting from scientific books and journals than actual research, then offering premises that do not support their conclusions.
Also, Wikipedia is not considered or accepted as a source of reference in academia.
Happy researching!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 22:31:19 GMT 1
I have the book Ancient Alien Question by the late Philip Coppens its pretty good. I just bought
Ancient Alien Empire Megalithia
Shelsky, Rob; Kempland, George (2013-09-21). Ancient Alien Empire Megalithia . GKRS Publications. Kindle Edition.
Supposedly they set out to prove ancient aliens have visited us in the past other than that its all I can tell you cause I have not had time to read it. Been looking for a good overall book on ufos got any suggestions? Been checking out those by Richard Dolan.
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Post by ronologic on Apr 7, 2015 0:43:56 GMT 1
alienorigins, "Need to Know" by Timothy Goode, "Leap of Faith" by Gordon Cooper, "Dulce Base" by Greg Valdez, "Project Beta" by Greg Bishop, and those should keep you busy for a while.
If you go the the thread I posted about books I have read, that will give you some other books to consider.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 10:59:07 GMT 1
alienorigins, "Need to Know" by Timothy Goode, "Leap of Faith" by Gordon Cooper, "Dulce Base" by Greg Valdez, "Project Beta" by Greg Bishop, and those should keep you busy for a while. If you go the the thread I posted about books I have read, that will give you some other books to consider. ron Cannot find that thread. Will check out the ones you mentioned thanks.
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Post by uforn on Apr 7, 2015 11:34:25 GMT 1
alienorigins, "Need to Know" by Timothy Goode, "Leap of Faith" by Gordon Cooper, "Dulce Base" by Greg Valdez, "Project Beta" by Greg Bishop, and those should keep you busy for a while. If you go the the thread I posted about books I have read, that will give you some other books to consider. ron Cannot find that thread. Will check out the ones you mentioned thanks. Hi alienorigins here is the thread which ron mentions ~ Books I have Read by Ronigical
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 23:38:54 GMT 1
Appreciate it.
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Post by ronologic on Apr 9, 2015 1:52:51 GMT 1
Thanks uforn! ron
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Post by avictim on Mar 16, 2016 5:21:19 GMT 1
NO.
We are human spirits, who manifested from origin light.
Our family who died remanifested, animals remanifested and spiritual beings manifest to heal, assist us and then disappear, but who advised us in the contact experiences that we were always spirit.
So if you ask how and why we manifested, the answer is simple.
Origin light always existed, it only lost a light mass of sound from it.
The light sound that became space, formed all O sound bodies as O suns and o planets from out of its own mass.Space exists only because a higher body surrounds it....origin light.
When the gases released from Earth, refilled emptied out space, the light and sound interacted with origin light. Spirit was formed in this process in origin light manifestation as Earth spirit Nature and then released as 1 interactive Nature....humans manifested last.
Our spirit was in origin a light spirit, whose body irradiated by atmospheric light sound converted into an organic presence. This is why we hold water inside of our body....yet water exists as a created state outside of our body.
We lived naturally, we created occultism from our brother's own pursuit to own powers for his own purpose of inventing.
His invention was to alter the natural radiated stone fusion called holy dust...his past life occult information details this information. He did this by O UFO manifesting.
Natural organic life lived on modern Earth, being irradiated by his own activated UFO nuclear orbital signal constant mutate...we already demonstrated that bone and skin and hair and tissue can convert and mutate. We grow horns like animals...we gain metallic implants beneath our skin for skin and blood and cells belongs to iron fusion.
Iron and metal gets changed in our atmosphere by an unnatural UFO metallic manifestation by an increased amount of star radiation particles using the atmosphere thinning....a higher carbon body and hydrogen to manifest and form a body.
This metallic body changes sound on Earth and converts our life.
Skulls can therefore naturally mutate and change shape as a mutated human life...already demonstrating mutation by forming horns from keratin. Keratin a chemical we know in bird feathers previously told us in natural spiritual psyche reviews of occultism....originating from the human spiritual experience, as an advice, that keratin protected our life by its angelic light sound/chemistry.
This is why our skin/hair/tissue changes, so does our bone structures as our DNA begins to malform our bones via various introduced results...cancers etc. All caused mutations by UFO activation. We cannot evolve into a healthy DNA or exist as a healthy and beautiful DNA if we were not once all beautiful and perfect. Mutation comes from a cell evolution of being irradiated whilst the conceived cells develop from sexual intercourse. This is how the Nature of life on Earth is changed and de-evolves.
Malformation is therefore an observation belonging to the conditions of a human archaelogical review of technology, UFO witness...UFO nuking...by sound interaction above ground and life conversion/life destruction in the evidence of the archaeology.
Obvious actually.
The human fight and argument has always been about the condition of how a human was first created...by spirit or by evolution.
The occultist believes in evolution and states that he can follow evolution for his own God realization O of powers to own, as his new occult ideal about our life. This is why secret studies by spiritual human beings proclaim that they believe in evolution and science and not spirit even though they support a spiritual condition and tradition of spiritual creation.
Humanity has always fought about our life against occultists or the creators of the UFO condition.
We already proved to the occultist that the UFO attacks, converts and destroys life, it is not our creator, it is our destroyer.
We procreate and live by a sexual act...not by an atmospheric creator...if we had no sex, we would all age and die and no human would exist on Earth claiming an atmospheric O creator or UFO creation.
The same for animals, the other organic body, you research.
The organic cell therefore is not created in the atmosphere, our organic body is created by the presence of a preceding organic body.
We die, we do not have an animal replacement as an occult review of evolution of a cell o and the UFO review itself O...God bodies or God ANGEL/ANGLE sounds...radiated sounds.
No organic life would exist on Earth if we all stopped having sex.
Radiated sound attacked the previous atmosphere, converted it and UFO only belongs to an attack. The radiation cooled and supports the atmosphere.
Our brother present on origin Earth when he converted his own spirit from a higher body into an organic body is the believer of an atmospheric creator O. Our spiritual family all know where we came from...he was the reason life on Earth and out of space was attacked and converted by his occult thinking or activation of O UFO......his thinking about how to convert his own spirit.
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