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Post by Laurance on Jun 13, 2010 14:30:54 GMT 1
Well I would like to see what everyone thinks about the whole UFO Phenomenon. I am very much of the opinion many, if not all, have a more terrestial explanation e.g. Black Book Projects etc
Please vote and discuss your personal theories upon the subject, lets get a good old debate going on.
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Post by uforn on Jun 13, 2010 17:26:24 GMT 1
Im having trouble what to vote here lol I think ill have to go with mixed but and its a big but 98% of what ive seen of late is total crap, Hoaxes & missidentification & the planet Venus as in them photos we examined a while ago. So my Vote is a split mixed 2% Unknown 98% all the others
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Post by coco on Jun 13, 2010 18:51:35 GMT 1
I also voted mixed as there is sufficient evidence that Man has been toying with experimental craft for the better part of the 20th and now 21st centuries, but there is also sufficient evidence prior to those time frames that craft and beings of foreign appearance and technology have visited.
Sometimes I wonder if some of the pre flight ability era sightings were in fact us somehow traveling through the veil of time and space visiting the past.
I think of it this way: If I lived in the 50's, 40's, 1800's and saw that Stealth fighter approach, fly over and away, all but disappearing into what appeared to be a perfectly straight, black line in the sky, I would have been convinced beyond any doubt that I had witnessed an alien craft when in fact it was perfectly terrestrial, just not perfectly terrestrial for my time in history.
I actually thought about that after I watched it fly away.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 2, 2010 2:23:41 GMT 1
I also went with mixed. There is a great deal of hoaxed material and misidentification out there. The legit cases are either advanced experimental human crafts (could be reversed engineered ET crafts), or actual E.T crafts.
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Post by killuminati90 on Jul 2, 2010 23:35:05 GMT 1
Its clearly mixed. Probably most of it are just people trying to make money out of hoaxes and stuff, but there is like a 5 % unexplainable which really has a legit case for being real.
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Post by metatron on Aug 18, 2010 2:35:59 GMT 1
It seems to me the UFO phenomenon is very mixed...well especially in these modern times. If you consider Roswell a fact then surely there was a lot of back engineering carried out since then and tptb will more than likely have incredible craft at their hands........but maybe that was what the belgian triangle sightings were in the early '90s..who knows...but I think there is a lot of genuine UFO activity still going on in our skies....lets face it as far as we are aware man did not have the power of flight before 1903 and there are many reports of strange anomolous sights in the sky from various references predating the Wright Brothers famous first flight!! The y are even covered in portraits and paintings of the time..be it medieval or renaissance or enlightened..the UFOs are there on canvas. Certainly makes you wonder!
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Post by meldrew on Sept 30, 2010 16:54:57 GMT 1
I believe most are man made, but I've also seen in real life what the ufo can do, their movement at great speed whilst changing direction then comming to an abrupt halt, common sense says that is not man made ! videos just don't do them justice in my opion.
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Post by gaag on Oct 6, 2010 22:13:09 GMT 1
Mixed for me as I think the vast majority of them are either explainable or would be if governments kept us apraised of advancements in technology - however I understand their reasoning behind not talking.
But there are that few, that very select few that are a genuine mystery.
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Post by annapura on Nov 10, 2010 8:52:28 GMT 1
We are on the brink of discovering the secrets of time travel, worm holes, and more . I'm sure one day when we approach a landed so called alien craft we shall be looking at ourselves. The human story has many secrets and fogotton memories. We shall find ourselves in the stars one day.
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Post by mike69 on Nov 11, 2010 22:06:00 GMT 1
I voted mixed, because I believe that there are human-made aircraft that have technology that far surpasses our understanding, and remain secret because they are used in the service of war when they could be used to persever our dying planet. ex: new planes from nasa
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Post by danielrodgersfrmnz on Apr 19, 2011 2:18:15 GMT 1
well iv just rescently read "message from the designers" you can download it at the home page of this site or go to rael dot org . and reading this has deffenitly answered allot of questions so il go with that lol we are a ginetic creation by a race witch is farmore scientificly advanced than ourselves but yet very much the same as we are . it may sound imposible but we all need to try to bring peace, harmony, balance and love to the table if we are ever going to actualy meet the elohim our creaters and inherit their great knowlege! ;D we can di it people
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Post by ronologic on Jul 15, 2011 22:57:43 GMT 1
Where there's smoke there's fire, and little flicker of a flame that 2-5% represents I hope turns into a raging inferno!
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Post by colsy on Aug 6, 2011 17:36:00 GMT 1
Went with mixed but believe that few percent are the real thing.
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Post by maxpain on Oct 6, 2011 1:53:08 GMT 1
Yes, I picked alien, why becuse what, I see, read, has to be partly true. percentage's says so, If not fully partly, the unknown flying object may be controled by the alien's. like us to probe to see if there is life here chance's are yea there atleast 98% of you are human the other 2% are just non believer's, yes! I belive in alien's other wize there would be just an awfuly lot of empty space out there and we would be all alone.
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Post by belle on Jul 30, 2012 20:33:24 GMT 1
I know this is an old thread, jumping in anyway.
I believe it is mixed. Alot is the government and hoaxes or hoaxes done by the government. Then there is that percent, small that it may be, that cannot be explained. When you have witnessed something, you know you saw it, you just cannot prove it to someone a majority of the time.
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Post by stecoop1 on Nov 26, 2012 20:46:47 GMT 1
I went for the mixed vote . Due to a very clever dissinformation campaign put together by governments over the years . After reading .. Sign ..Grudge ...BBSR14 , also the 4 explainations for the Roswell event .Its quite clear that back then and to this day they still dont control the skies . But not all ufo reports and sightings are of ET origin , most can be explained due to poor observations .. astronomical .. Millitary projects and some natural Phenomenon. Its the Unknowns that count
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Post by wallarookiller on Dec 27, 2012 23:18:53 GMT 1
without a doubt it's mixed. many fakes, some government, lots of seeing what you want to see and also some real in my opinion.
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Post by sky2 on Dec 27, 2012 23:37:00 GMT 1
My opinion is that they defiantly exist. I am sure you all are familiar with the statement of Medvedev two weeks ago when he said t the reporter to watch the documentary about men in black. Well take a look at what he was talking about. Watch out where are you going someone might follow you
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2012 3:02:09 GMT 1
Hello All, There certainly is a lot of junk floating around but that just indicates that there are those that hoax these days just like those of decades ago. I just don't know if the reasons are the same as they used to be. Before I think it was more to get attention and now I think it's more to show off cgi skills. Programs are coming out that hopefully will be reasonably priced to more quickly tell the difference between hoaxes and the real deal. Anyway, of all the UFO phenom I still say that the Black Triangles are the nearest thing WRT solving at least one aspect of ufology but like other fields of UFO study the effort is too fractured in it's pursuit for much in the way of headway towards solving the mystery of them. I posted some results of an investigation on another Forum and the ONLY response was the question of why the BT's are so openly flying around population centers and that since they do then they cannot be secret military ops. Well, that's fine, but there was no offer to do any research as to why that conclusion was thought to be valid. But that is what goes on out there- everyone has an opinion but no one has anything to back it up. That's why this Forum is so cool. Folks here do the work. They WANT to do the work. One gets no where without doing the work or getting involved with someone who is. Opinion is fine but in the end that's all it is- opinion. There is so much more I could say but I'm already waaay off topic. Edited for spelling and a few other mistakes
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Post by allan53 on Jan 26, 2013 5:46:52 GMT 1
Shame there isn't a "not sure, witholding judgement until further information comes through" option.
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Post by sddwashington on Jan 26, 2013 15:49:59 GMT 1
Im having trouble what to vote here lol I think ill have to go with mixed but and its a big but 98% of what ive seen of late is total crap, Hoaxes & missidentification & the planet Venus as in them photos we examined a while ago. So my Vote is a split mixed 2% Unknown 98% all the others I concur with you sir. But I do not in my 45 years of tracking this stuff think it is a nuts and bolts construction ethic here. These things can morph into something else and go through solid objects and make 90 degree turns going thousands of miles of Kilometres an hour. I believe it is a ultra demential element of quantum mechanics and even a spiritual nature to there existence totally. I have said I have a degree in Theology and it took this many years to see a direct correlation in a deep spiritual meaning. Sure there are black op projects and I do not deny that. But in the grand scheme of things in the big picture it is way above our thinking. 3rd dimensional space travel is out of the question. M=MC2 does not apply here. You have to look out of the box my friends. They are created beings and who created them? Look at the Greys. Are they nice and benevolent? I never heard of a nice Grey Alien. They put terror in every person I have interviewed. Reptilian? I am not a fan of that group either. The Nordics? Well they seem cool to talk about about but it all comes back to the same question. I think it is demonic and the French UFO researcher Vallees or how ever you spell that man,s name said the same thing. And He is an atheist to my knowledge. He may be dead. You do not have to believe in God or a higher power to see that these beings and there alleged space craft are evil and THEY have an AGENDA. This is very plain to see. Think out of the box mates. Check out YouTube " Aliens are from Hell". Thank you for reading and thinking. SDDWASHINGTON Brisbane Australia. 27-01-2013.
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Post by sddwashington on Jan 27, 2013 8:40:12 GMT 1
G'Day Mates. I have read what I have written above and I want to say that I would not change a thing I have written. Computer - Generated Imagery is very very professional today and you can not tell what is fact and what is fiction. I believe as I have already written that these entities are evil and not here for Global warming, peace, or advance techonology give aways. I am asking you to really think about what I am writting. These beings are capable of almost anything and the "Men in Black" issue is also part of the agenda. I have read and seen reports that the men in black entities do not even at times understand human behavior and even act as though "they" do not even convey themselves as government agents what so ever. Through out recorded history we have mention of Sky gods and demons and all kinds of evil. The UFO,s that I personally have seen in 1964 at close range were made out of Metal. At least that is what my senses told me as well as other witnesses. Very very highly polished almost mirror like finish as in a chrome likeness. Does not seem spiritual or evil does it? But I am telling you that there is a very bad element to these " Aliens". Alien autopsy issue,s are another thing I am cautious on. Do not forget what I said about Computer-Generated Imagery. I saw a YouTube Russian alien autopsy and looked very much to be a amateur job, but a CGI could be done and so real who would know. So I am not going to harp on this, and maybe this Post should be moved to a better place, but I do not have the answers my friends, but being my age and having chased so much I can not help but express that I am sure we are not dealing with people or entities that are so altruistic to have our best interests at heart. Have a go with Mr. Art Bell and He will agree. Thank you once more for your time in reading this. Godspeed. SDDWASHINGTON Brisbane Australia 27-01-2013. This is not a simple Nuts and Bolts story.
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Post by astropete on Feb 23, 2014 12:01:57 GMT 1
I've voted mixed. I think UFO's are real, in so far as they are flying objects that have not been identified. But are they alien? I'm not 100% convinced about that. That being said, while most UFO's can be found out to be relatively ordinary objects (blimps, planes, comets, stars, planets, etc) there are some that are genuine unknowns and in many cases they do seem to behave as if they are under intelligent control so who is controlling them if it's not aliens?
I've seen a lot of UFO pictures and videos. A lot are obvious fakes, some are mistaken identity and one or two I just don't know. Many Governments say that these things aren't real, but if that's the case why would they waste money on investigating them, scrambling fighters to track them, and so on, if they aren't really there?
So, are they real? Yes, I think some of them are. Are they alien? I'm not 100% sure. As I said some do exhibit signs of intelligent control. I guess I won't be fully convinced until one lands on the White House lawn, pops the hatch and says "We came to this planet looking for intelligent life. Oops! We made a mistake!"
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Post by georgek on Jun 25, 2016 5:27:27 GMT 1
I am not sure if any of the topics above fit the correct description?
From my experience, I would like to refrain away from the 'nuts and bolts' variety although there is some consistency in this to suggest a materialistic composite.
I think that the use of drones or biological robots fit this description although the higher entities are pure spirit?
Pure spirit in the sense that they can take up form to some resemblance which we can accept.
Their superiority is beyond understanding and even after 52 years I am still no closer to the truth than when I was a kid. Nor do they wish to discus it with me, other than what others have found about me.
They simply can tune straight into conversations and even as I write here on this forum, I bet they are watching me type and perhaps synchronise to observers who may be reading this post?
On many occasions I have been able to tap into the person reading my posts as I have proved live on forum.
This is not a boast, nor is it meant to exasperate the inner feelings of others. It happens and many years ago I had endless fun, placing drawings and reading others that I wished I never did!
I like to say that I have retired and all I have now is the vast media of photographs, challenges and predictions that I have in my archives for future references.
I may feel that I am special as this seems to be a common side effect of people who have undergone similar encounters.
The picture is vast, and all I know is that they want me alive. When I turn left instead of right, I am poked in the correct direction. If I fail then I hurt and change direction.
The UFO phenomena (To what I have found) is earth bound. I am not talking about a Hollow Earth or visitations from under the sea, but the only way I can describe them is a scenario between 'The Ten Commandments', 'Excalibur' and 'Fire In the Sky'
I call them 'The Elementals'...those who control the earth and it's climate, population and well being. As to watch over mankind as to ensure that we do not destroy ourselves.
In the physical where all hard lessons are learnt as for our spirit to move forward.
Cos just like them who have no need of a physical body, they operate in multi-dimensions and occasionally look over airports, security bases, and all things possible to ensure the survival of the human race. The thing that concern them is the failure in the womb. Without talking too much about this, I will refer to The Betty and Barney case. Or perhaps the reason why we hear of all these abductions and sexual explorations?
Occasionally a crazy dude like me comes along who takes three steps and half a jump rather that two feet forward with even strides, so they zoom in. Perhaps I am incorrect and that they knew me long before I was born? Who knows?
Apart from that.......my opinion is frightening.
There power is awesome and if they wanted to hurt me....they would have done so a long time ago!
Benevolent...YES.
Other than that, they can operate far greater than anything mentioned.....and can zoom in at a seconds notice and land their craft in a busy side street without anyone realising that they been and gone!
We don't look for them.....THEY have found US. Nor do you need to spend endless hours searching the night skies. They probably know two weeks in advanced before you have your sky watch and ninety nine point nine nine nine nine percent will ignore you, unless they find you useful.
That does not mean that I am the most likeable person to know......? Far from it! You would most likely hate my guts if you knew me, as boring and a thousand other distasteful things.
You would look at me at think:- "I hate this guy...I really do...but I do not know why?"
That is because I am different...just the way that THEY are different.
I even look like an alien...lol
Just my thoughts
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