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Post by ronologic on Feb 24, 2012 3:06:47 GMT 1
The "Battle of LA," 70 Years Ago Today: 5 Irrefutable Arguments Why It Was Actually a UFO Attack By Richard Connelly Thu., Feb. 23 2012 at 6:01 AM Seventy years ago today, the Battle of Los Angeles occurred, a vicious fight that resulted in three civilian deaths. Haven't heard of it? We're not surprised. The U.S. government said what happened was nighttime antiaircraft crews protecting Los Angeles got nervous -- it was just two months after Pearl Harbor -- and opened fire on a weather balloon. The crews also set off flares, and all the confusion just built on itself. So we're told. Others say the night featured an attempted UFO landing, in which the valiant gun crews fought aliens trying to land. It's pretty obvious the latter is true. Obviously the aliens not only attempted to land, they succeeded. Just look at what's happened in Hollywood since then. The logic becomes inescapable. 5. The quantity of UFO/alien movies has increased dramatically Between 1911 and 1941, UFOs and flying saucers were occasionally a subject for films. Since then -- especially since the 1950s, after a necessary period of time to learn the equipment and infiltrate studio management -- movies about UFOs exploded. Coincidence? who's being naive, Kay? 4. The quality of UFO/alien movies has increased dramatically In the 1930s, UFOs were laughably portrayed on screen, obvious frauds. While it understandably took a decade or two to import the necessary technology from the home planet to Earth, all of a sudden you got Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Independence Day and the Transformers series. The aliens' unstinting desire for complete accuracy in movies is inspiring 3. Very, very strange people like Tom Cruise and Arnold Schwarzenegger have reached the pinnacle of Hollywood success One fiercely believes in aliens and Xenu as if he knows it was true and the other became an influential box-office legend despite documentaries that proved a) he could barely speak English, and b) he was a cyborg sent from the future to kill a specific human. Luckily for the U.S. -- and the world -- the aliens overreached when they had him elected California governor as a first step towards getting his finger on the nuclear button (Yes, their plans included overturning the "natural born citizen" section of the Constitution.) 2. The attacks suddenly stopped If it was a case of "itchy trigger fingers," why weren't there countless more up and down the coast? Answer: Because the aliens had succeeded in landing and needed no more attempts. Sherlock Holmes's "dog that didn't bark" theorem FTW, bitchaz. 1. They never found the "weather balloon" that started it all The feds would have you believe the following: 1) A weather balloon was shot at by a lot of antiaircraft guns 2) It, or its pieces, fell to the Pacific Ocean. If that's true, why couldn't they produce the balloon? Surely the balloon (or the pieces thereof) would have floated in the Pacific for some time, and the Pacific is known by oceanologists to be, as they say, "not very big." So why couldn't the government find this alleged "balloon"? blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2012/02/ufos_aliens_battle_la.php
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Post by bob on Feb 24, 2012 3:21:55 GMT 1
Hey Ron, Im still wondering what their doing with that all purpose aircraft skin the found on the crashed vessel from Mexico in 1947. Comfortable, yet bullet proof.
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Post by ronologic on Feb 24, 2012 5:11:13 GMT 1
bob, did you intend to write "New Mexico"?
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Post by uforn on Feb 24, 2012 12:25:23 GMT 1
I dont agree with that list at all! Quote: 5. The quantity of UFO/alien movies has increased dramatically |
These kind of movies sell, the public love them. Quote: 4. The quality of UFO/alien movies has increased dramatically |
Technology got better as did actors, producers & directors etc etc. Quote: 3. Very, very strange people like Tom Cruise and Arnold Schwarzenegger have reached the pinnacle of Hollywood success |
Alot of actors are strange / very eccentric, that does not mean that they couldnt sell films. Quote: 2. The attacks suddenly stopped |
Because the aliens had succeeded in landing and needed no more attempts |
What attacks? Where did the Aliens land ? Quote: 1. They never found the "weather balloon" that started it all |
So it must be Aliens then ? The writer of this article has a very over active imagination if you ask me. They have provided no evidence whatsoever to back up these claims.
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Post by ronologic on Feb 24, 2012 18:56:14 GMT 1
uforn, I agree with you on this. I just thought I would present the other side of the coin on this.
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Post by uforn on Feb 24, 2012 20:14:27 GMT 1
uforn, I agree with you on this. I just thought I would present the other side of the coin on this. Dont get me wrong I think this case is a very good one and maybe could well have been a Real UFO (maybe alien). But the evidence on this is very limited, to try and make a claim that it was alien is well..............
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Post by ronologic on Feb 24, 2012 20:40:26 GMT 1
I have yet to read an adequate explanation, other than it being a UFO, as to what was being fired upon during this episode. I do beleive that there was/is nothing flying in any military inventory that could stand up to all of the shells fired at that thing.
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Post by uforn on Feb 24, 2012 20:43:49 GMT 1
Had a quick look on youtube and this appears to be a recording of a broadcast of the events that happend on the February 24 to early February 25, 1942 over Los Angeles. I also noticed that the author of the article gave no reference to the event by date or any other means, so imo this was aimed at a certain audience Anyone that does not know about UFO's or this case wouldnt have a clue what this guy or gal is going on about, To leave dates out etc is a big fail!! EDIT: The author of the article is Richard Connelly. Who is Richard Connelly ? Ive never heard of him ? www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhg_ZoKCEs0
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Post by ronologic on Feb 24, 2012 20:55:30 GMT 1
I have seen this. I am not only amazed by the huge number of shells exploding around the object, but also that it came back for a second serving! I find it somewhat amusing that although the U.S. Govt. had planed for an invasion on the west coast, I am 100% certain this is not what they had in mind.
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Post by uforn on Feb 24, 2012 21:06:09 GMT 1
I have seen this. I am not only amazed by the huge number of shells exploding around the object, but also that it came back for a secong serving! I find it somewhat amusing that although the U.S. Govt. had planed for an invasion on the west coast, I am 100% certain this is not what they had in mind. I edited my post as you were posting to add the author to the article in my last post, who is Richard Connelly? Ive never heard of him what else has he wrote on UFO's I wonder ?
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Post by bob on Feb 24, 2012 21:10:36 GMT 1
Absolutely correct Uforn. New Mexico.
I did like the rant for the sake of casual conversation. Except the Arnold Schwarzenegger characterization and the argument that we the humans have the brains to come up with tech all by ourselves.
Arnold Schwarzenegger was an odd choice for Governor but he was competing against about 100 people including a stripper and an actor from a show airing in the late 80's.
Humans did need a push to evolve into the ability to create tech and manipulate electricity to do really wild things, like launching satellites. The introduction of a foreign gene was needed to accept mathematical data and make something with it. Just an opinion.
Since no one will ever interview a grey alien on broadcast TV complete with tours of underground bases and follow up interviews with their subjects, the general masses will not accept them as real. But for everyone else who views eye witness testimony as a valid source of the truth, the debate goes on.
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Post by uforn on Feb 24, 2012 21:26:25 GMT 1
Absolutely correct Uforn. New Mexico. It was ronigical mate not me, he deserves the credit
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Post by bob on Feb 24, 2012 21:29:13 GMT 1
Hey Ron, from a map it all looks like the same territory.
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Post by bob on Feb 24, 2012 21:30:27 GMT 1
Your quick today uforn. You answered before I was finished with my edit. How is everything?
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Post by bob on Feb 24, 2012 21:40:45 GMT 1
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Post by uforn on Feb 24, 2012 22:37:58 GMT 1
I think this article is aimed to ridicule the case or am I wrong in thinking this ?
There are no exact dates given to the case nor is there a review of the case, just a set 5 opinions on why it was Aliens without any evidence to back it up at all! It is aimed at the UFO community as no-one else would have a clue what hes on about by this.
This is a good case and I for one think it could well have been out of this world but the way this article is presented is aimed at ridicule IMO. What are your thoughts on this ?
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Post by bob on Feb 24, 2012 23:16:09 GMT 1
I think its an attempt to solidify a concept without having to show any proof, as their is no proof, just a whole lot of shelling and the thing is still their. Instant gratification piece, fast food for those who don't need proof...Im not good a picking up sarcasm, the writer left no references for that matter, so Ill have to guess that Connolly is a lazy blogger with sound personal conviction.
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Post by bob on Feb 24, 2012 23:24:38 GMT 1
Yea, the guys a smart ass. I just read the comment of the day. The message in all caps kind of gave that away. The way the story was written is still eye candy for the stone throwers, but nonetheless a common opinion among those who don't make a living at satire.
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Post by uforn on Feb 24, 2012 23:28:18 GMT 1
I think its an attempt to solidify a concept without having to show any proof, as their is no proof, just a whole lot of shelling and the thing is still their. Instant gratification piece, fast food for those who don't need proof...Im not good a picking up sarcasm, the writer left no references for that matter, so Ill have to guess that Connolly is a lazy blogger with sound personal conviction. I dont think so< I think its aimed at ridicule. If I knew it was the 70th anniversary of the case I bet I could have put together a very good presentation for it. much better than this, But I havnt so thats easy to say now
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Post by ronologic on Feb 24, 2012 23:30:24 GMT 1
Richard Connelly wrote, "Others say the night featured an attempted UFO landing, in which the valiant gun crews fought aliens trying to land. It's pretty obvious the latter is true. Obviously the aliens not only attempted to land, they succeeded. Just look at what's happened in Hollywood since then. The logic becomes inescapable."
My way of thinking here is that he beleives that the UFO/Alein connection is correct and then uses the 5 arguments to support his proposition.
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Post by uforn on Feb 25, 2012 0:18:23 GMT 1
Richard Connelly wrote, "Others say the night featured an attempted UFO landing, in which the valiant gun crews fought aliens trying to land. It's pretty obvious the latter is true. Obviously the aliens not only attempted to land, they succeeded. Just look at what's happened in Hollywood since then. The logic becomes inescapable." My way of thinking here is that he beleives that the UFO/Alein connection is correct and then uses the 5 arguments to support his proposition. Ive shown in a previous post that his proposition is wrong or should I say say questionable to say the least. Quote: I dont agree with that list at all!
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These kind of movies sell, the public love them.
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Technology got better as did actors, producers & directors etc etc.
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3. Very, very strange people like Tom Cruise and Arnold Schwarzenegger have reached the pinnacle of Hollywood success |
Alot of actors are strange / very eccentric, that does not mean that they couldnt sell films.
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Because the aliens had succeeded in landing and needed no more attempts |
What attacks? Where did the Aliens land ?
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So it must be Aliens then ? |
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Post by bob on Feb 25, 2012 0:28:52 GMT 1
The word valiant should be a tip off. Sarcasm. Yet the bone head doesn't realize he makes a better argument for ET than any attempt to disprove it. What could possible stand that kind of beating against AAA guns? The photo clearly shows at least 50 rounds exploding around a bright white light fixed in that one spot. No argument. The Hollywood remark is in the spot too. I know Science Fiction writers were busy during the 50's and 60's, but when ET the movie came out, it was all flowers and sunshine for the little green creature. Instant sympathy. It had nothing to do with the LA event, but the evidence that ET has made an impact on Hollywood is almost common sense. The "UFO's are here " 1977 documentary with interviews including Steven Spielberg is another good example. www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKc2sikAnHE
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Post by uforn on Feb 25, 2012 0:38:41 GMT 1
The word valiant should be a tip off. Sarcasm. Yet the bone head doesn't realize he makes a better argument for ET than any attempt to disprove it. What could possible stand that kind of beating against AAA guns? The photo clearly shows at least 50 rounds exploding around a bright white light fixed in that one spot. No argument. The Hollywood remark is in the spot too. I know Science Fiction writers were busy during the 50's and 60's, but when ET the movie came out, it was all flowers and sunshine for the little green creature. Instant sympathy. It had nothing to do with the LA event, but the evidence that ET has made an impact on Hollywood is almost common sense. The "Aliens are Real "movie Steven Spielberg is another good example. Have you seen close encounters of the third kind by spielberg ? The amount of research he did for this film is excellent to say the least, did you know that it was Dr J Allen Hynek that was the main advisor for spielberg on this movie ?
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Post by ronologic on Feb 25, 2012 1:21:37 GMT 1
The word valiant should be a tip off. Sarcasm. Yet the bone head doesn't realize he makes a better argument for ET than any attempt to disprove it. What could possible stand that kind of beating against AAA guns? The photo clearly shows at least 50 rounds exploding around a bright white light fixed in that one spot. No argument. The Hollywood remark is in the spot too. I know Science Fiction writers were busy during the 50's and 60's, but when ET the movie came out, it was all flowers and sunshine for the little green creature. Instant sympathy. It had nothing to do with the LA event, but the evidence that ET has made an impact on Hollywood is almost common sense. The "Aliens are Real "movie Steven Spielberg is another good example. Have you seen close encounters of the third kind by spielberg ? The amount of research he did for this film is excellent to say the least, did you know that it was Dr J Allen Hynek that was the main advisor for spielberg on this movie ? Not only have I seen the filn I own a DVD of it. Also,not only did J. Allen Hynek help in making the film he and Stanton T. Friedman are in the closing scene.
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Post by uforn on Feb 25, 2012 1:28:13 GMT 1
Have you seen close encounters of the third kind by spielberg ? The amount of research he did for this film is excellent to say the least, did you know that it was Dr J Allen Hynek that was the main advisor for spielberg on this movie ? Not only have I seen the filn I own a DVD of it. Also,not only did J. Allen Hynek help in making the film he and Stanton T. Friedman are in the closing scene. Can you find this scene with them in mate, ? I want to see this
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Post by ronologic on Feb 25, 2012 1:58:55 GMT 1
Starting with the last four chapters; Hynek 2:02:57 and 2:08:22 Friedman 2:12:45 R2D2 is standing upside down at 1:54:03 as the Mother Ship first passes over Devils' Tower.
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Post by uforn on Feb 25, 2012 2:20:06 GMT 1
Starting with the last four chapters; Hynek 2:02:57 and 2:08:22 Friedman 2:12:45 R2D2 is standing upside down at 1:54:03 as the Mother Ship first passes over Devils' Tower. Is this available to view online do you know mate?
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Post by ronologic on Feb 25, 2012 2:24:05 GMT 1
Starting with the last four chapters; Hynek 2:02:57 and 2:08:22 Friedman 2:12:45 R2D2 is standing upside down at 1:54:03 as the Mother Ship first passes over Devils' Tower. Is this available to view online do you know mate? I don't know. Maybe You Tube?
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Post by uforn on Feb 25, 2012 2:35:24 GMT 1
Is this available to view online do you know mate? I don't know. Maybe You Tube? Maybe mate, Have a look Im off to bed as its late here.
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