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Post by mrindigo on Nov 9, 2010 6:55:31 GMT 1
I think the possibility of negligence is the most likely. Assuming that there are ETs watching and cataloging Earth, it may be that they aren't interested in communication. They likely would have done so long ago if they were. That would make them convenient scapegoats, since they wouldn't give a rebuttal. I won't be surprised if this sort of thing comes up again.
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Post by mrindigo on Nov 9, 2010 6:28:52 GMT 1
Good article, Funny thing, I was contemplating the creation of a venting thread related to the themes covered by the blog/article, and what judge has touched on. In some unnamed forums, people will believe the most outlandish material possible. Much of it has no evidence or even weak backing. A certain thread comes to mind in which a user attempted to link depictions of humanoid feline statues of the ancient world as literal. The notion that they could have represented the empire's rise during the age of Leo was too practical. If I had tossed in some Caucasian blond extraterrestrials with names that sound like a Spanish dish, some Hollywood explosions, and natural cloud formations secretly being cloaked crafts, it would have been good for them. Instead the statues were absolute proof of shapeshifting feline extraterrestrials. It's no wonder that most of the public doesn't take UFOlogy seriously. Another thing that annoys me is how some take the contactee phenomena as unquestionable material. Maybe some have had contact, but where's the proof? How about a bobble or small parting gift from the ETs? A picture? No one seems to produce anything like that. Then there are those who say, "I know what happened, so I don't need proof". That's well and good if it's kept between them and a small group of trusted friends, etc. It's another when they try and use that when writing books and doing lectures. If you're going to go out into the public arena, provide something tangible. The rest of us weren't there to experience what you did. Unfortunately in today's world, a person's word is not usually enough. There are a lot of charlatans and fraudsters about. Perfect example of that is 'The Agency', and the GFL nonsense that's been floating around the internet. With all of the forums out there which people talk about being truth seekers, very few do seem interested in doing the legwork/research. One would think that with their knowledge, they would have more incentive. Nope, they feel content being bobble-heads, nodding in agreement at anyone who tells them what they want to hear. Fraud - "Those bright orbs in your picture are fifth dimension beings from the planet Zarglag-9, working on your spirit body for the ascension. The fact that you snapped that picture on a dusty road near a street lamp has nothing to do with it. Now for fifty dollars more, I can give you this kit and my instructional DVDs to help you move along faster with the process. Remember, 2012 is the deadline!" mrindigo I just want to kiss you for that amazing piece, but I won't as that would be gay. So true words, shame that we are the unspoken minority in UFOlogy it seems. Thank you, Manx! The article and the posts before mine were inspirational. I hope more people start looking at UFOlogy more critically. It has been taken into an area it never should have been. Oh, and I misspelled bauble in there. ;D
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Post by mrindigo on Nov 9, 2010 5:58:35 GMT 1
Good article,
Funny thing, I was contemplating the creation of a venting thread related to the themes covered by the blog/article, and what judge has touched on. In some unnamed forums, people will believe the most outlandish material possible. Much of it has no evidence or even weak backing. A certain thread comes to mind in which a user attempted to link depictions of humanoid feline statues of the ancient world as literal. The notion that they could have represented the empire's rise during the age of Leo was too practical. If I had tossed in some Caucasian blond extraterrestrials with names that sound like a Spanish dish, some Hollywood explosions, and natural cloud formations secretly being cloaked crafts, it would have been good for them. Instead the statues were absolute proof of shapeshifting feline extraterrestrials. It's no wonder that most of the public doesn't take UFOlogy seriously.
Another thing that annoys me is how some take the contactee phenomena as unquestionable material. Maybe some have had contact, but where's the proof? How about a bobble or small parting gift from the ETs? A picture? No one seems to produce anything like that. Then there are those who say, "I know what happened, so I don't need proof". That's well and good if it's kept between them and a small group of trusted friends, etc. It's another when they try and use that when writing books and doing lectures. If you're going to go out into the public arena, provide something tangible. The rest of us weren't there to experience what you did. Unfortunately in today's world, a person's word is not usually enough. There are a lot of charlatans and fraudsters about. Perfect example of that is 'The Agency', and the GFL nonsense that's been floating around the internet.
With all of the forums out there which people talk about being truth seekers, very few do seem interested in doing the legwork/research. One would think that with their knowledge, they would have more incentive. Nope, they feel content being bobble-heads, nodding in agreement at anyone who tells them what they want to hear.
Fraud - "Those bright orbs in your picture are fifth dimension beings from the planet Zarglag-9, working on your spirit body for the ascension. The fact that you snapped that picture on a dusty road near a street lamp has nothing to do with it. Now for fifty dollars more, I can give you this kit and my instructional DVDs to help you move along faster with the process. Remember, 2012 is the deadline!"
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Post by mrindigo on Nov 9, 2010 5:03:24 GMT 1
Some good advice there From Manx and Judge. The benevolent accounts are typically rare and unique. I don't think they regard humanity too highly given the similarities to some of our own practices. If they're here (which seems likely), they may be more interested in humanity from a Scientific stance.
The similarities I mentioned are of our own practices of studying and cataloging animal species of our planet. We tranquilize, trap, subdue, and abduct other species. We then perform experiments and take down data. From what many abuductees claim, they appear to be doing the same to us. A lot of people wouldn't like that notion because it insinuates that humanity is not lord and master of universe like many believe. Ego does funny things to the mind.
Another thing to be cautious of is assuming that all ETs would come here to save the planet and to save us from ourselves. That sort of thinking is how demi gods and religions are formed. Until each of us have had a chance to communicate with some of them, we wouldn't know what they're here for.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 23, 2010 19:50:54 GMT 1
That article struck me interesting because as far as flying machines are concerned, we (humans) have been toying with alternative designs and engineering since post WWII. And now the government addresses the USO at a time when they are gaining greater public attention. Coincidence? It's possible that it is a coincidence, but I don't think it's likely. I think your thoughts on that have a high probability of being correct. I agree, it seems like a ploy to try and explain USOs.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 15, 2010 4:43:31 GMT 1
I practice some of that already, but there was some suggestions that I will adopt. This is a very good list, thanks for taking the time to create and post it.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 10, 2010 23:24:27 GMT 1
Interesting question. As has been said, it would all depend on the circumstances in which the contact is made. If it's friendly, maybe UFOlogists will be considered for a diplomatic/learning and investigative program? Basically they would be allowed to tag along with a guide and ask questions. Maybe the same could be done in reverse if the race we cross is one that has never been to Earth before?
The above is best case scenario, and I see it as being very unlikely. First contact will likely be very brief and not very direct. Lets face it, a large majority of our species are pretty violent, and that may be off putting to another group.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 10, 2010 22:58:17 GMT 1
Hello, Coco! I'm glad you like the thread so far. I'm not sure what to make of that experience, but I'd like to know. I didn't experience any headaches, but the hair on my forearms and neck was standing up. I did have a slight tingling sensation on my forehead, but no pain. I did have to shake it off afterwords, it felt like I had woken from a deep restless sleep. My vision was a little hazy for a few seconds after snapping out of it, but other than that nothing abnormal to speak of. This is one of the more recent experiences, I've had others in the past, but under different circumstances and in different locations. Thank you. The reason for my questions is that they may be of some assistance to Manz and Judge and you in trying to find an answer. Many years ago I arrived home after work, it had been storming. Florida has a great deal of static electricity in its air even on a clear day compared to other parts of the country due to its location and weather, but during storm time there is a great deal. I walked to the door of my apartment, touched the doorknob, and was struck still. The hair on my arms and body raised, I could not see as everything went white; all was quiet, as I could not hear. There was a slight bit of static tingle, much like when you're close to a lightning strike and I have been many times. There was no pain. I secretly panicked and wondered if I had been struck by lightning. The experience seemed to last a long time while it was taking place but in reality it only lasted a few seconds as best I can deduce. My sight and hearing returned, the hair laid back down, I saw that I was still standing with my hand on the doorknob. There was a deep pain in my head the dissipated quickly. I 'shook it off' and realized I was fine and not lightning struck. I can only theorize that there must have been a static build up and my body must have acted as a discharge for it when I touched the door knob. Thing is, electricity disrupts heart rhythm and I do not recall feeling any of the sort. Likewise, you made no mention of that. It is a possibility, though not the only one, that you may have unwittingly driven through a static field. I am interested to learn what Judge and Manz deduce about your time loss experience. Thank you for contributing and giving some insight, Coco. I think you may be right in this situation. I may have crossed onto some sort of energy field. The one thing I can't figure out is how I was effected. I was in a car, and technically the rubber tires should have grounded it out. I can see massive jolts having an effect, but smaller concentrations should not. You're right, I didn't have any issues with heart palpitations. That's typically associated with electric discharges, as it disrupts normal nerve and synaptic functions. I'm baffled by it. Edit: I think I should add that some years ago I was tested for seizure patterns, as one of my siblings was having issues with seizures at a young age. All of my cousins were tested as well, and none of us showed any sign of neurological abnormalities. My sibling no longer has the seizures, as they were outgrown. That's one possibility ruled out.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 9, 2010 22:34:56 GMT 1
Thank you, Mr. Indigo. I have read before the time loss dilemma and fog also though I cannot recall any material at the moment. It is possible you had some sort of ET experience, but there could have been a........I don't know how to say.......you could have unwittingly crossed a temporary electromagentic (EM) event. Fortunately in this time of history such events and the effects they have are being seriously investgated though only by a few. Sometimes these events cause people to 'zone out' and operate on auto pilot for a moment, sometimes they cause people to witness things that transpired in the area a long time ago, and sometimes the event erases a veil allowing them to see things in a different 'dimension'. Do you recall having a headache? Did you have to 'shake it off' to return to normal? Your eyes, they were alright after you returned to awareness? I have a reason for asking those questions, I hope you don't mind. Evidently this has not happened since. Do you know of others experiencing this? Have you had the opportunity to research the history of the area? This is very interesting! I can't thank you enough! Hello, Coco! I'm glad you like the thread so far. I'm not sure what to make of that experience, but I'd like to know. I didn't experience any headaches, but the hair on my forearms and neck was standing up. I did have a slight tingling sensation on my forehead, but no pain. I did have to shake it off afterwords, it felt like I had woken from a deep restless sleep. My vision was a little hazy for a few seconds after snapping out of it, but other than that nothing abnormal to speak of. This is one of the more recent experiences, I've had others in the past, but under different circumstances and in different locations.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 9, 2010 22:12:41 GMT 1
If you wouldn't mind could you send me the Cooirds? I could check it out for you. Yeah I'll do that, thank you. Much appreciated.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 3, 2010 2:37:58 GMT 1
The top of the hill was pretty foggy, it was all over. When I reached the top of the hill, I was surrounded by the fog. The hilltop is covered in trees, and I could barely see them. It was about that point when the missing time occurred, and I ended out much further than I should have been. I have heard of time jumps happening before and almost all cases have some form of fog or mist. Maybe that was it. Where about did you say it happend? Are there any Military units/bases near by? Have you heard about other cases in your area? No there are no military bases here. It happened at the top of a rocky hill across from a river. How-ever the river does run along a fault-line. A few hundred years ago there was a large native american settlement here. Tribes from all over the North East US used to come here for the salmon and shad runs. The site was considered sacred. Maybe there's some sort of layline here?
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 2, 2010 2:39:12 GMT 1
When you say a little foggy do you mean around your car? Was there any time when you seemed surrounded by mist/fog/cloud? The top of the hill was pretty foggy, it was all over. When I reached the top of the hill, I was surrounded by the fog. The hilltop is covered in trees, and I could barely see them. It was about that point when the missing time occurred, and I ended out much further than I should have been.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 2, 2010 2:31:49 GMT 1
In many cases I think they're just highly trained government branch agents. They may be in a classification above the CIA. Some of the material I have read on them has been interesting. Some claim they utilize an above average psychic ability, others say advanced technology.
Other theories and claims have gone as far as to suggest that some of them may be bio-mechanical androids of sorts. Some think that some could be of extraterrestrial origin. Some of the weird accounts may corroborate that possibility.
An interesting thing to consider to, is whether or not the supposed E.T M.I.Bs are working with the human government authorities, or if they're doing things under their nose.
Regardless of which, they're certainly a curious oddity.
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Post by mrindigo on Jul 2, 2010 2:23:41 GMT 1
I also went with mixed. There is a great deal of hoaxed material and misidentification out there. The legit cases are either advanced experimental human crafts (could be reversed engineered ET crafts), or actual E.T crafts.
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Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 21:21:02 GMT 1
I've always found the missing time phenomena and it's potential E.T/Black ops government associations to be interesting. I was wondering if anyone here has experienced this, or knows someone who has? I have personally experienced this a few times. Since I made the thread, it's only fair of me to go first. I was driving home one day from the next town over. The drive is only about 10 minutes, so no big deal. I started to drive over a large hill, when I noticed a strange static feeling. The next thing I know, I'm already down the hill, across a bridge and river, and less than a minute from my home. What happened between that, I have no idea. Unfortunately the clock in the car did not work at the time, and I don't wear a watch, so I don't have anything to really gauge it by. I mentioned this to a friend who said I could have just phased out and drove home on autopilot. That may have been the case, but I can't help but wonder what happened. Was there any 'weird' weather going on? How about mist, clouds? It was a little foggy and overcast, yes. Other than that, I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.
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Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 4:24:44 GMT 1
What if some of the UFO's are us? What I mean is maybe past civilizations knew there was going to be an Armageddon of sorts and left the planet and continued on in space? Just something that came to me a few minutes ago. That's an interesting twist. I've talked to people who thought UFOs might by humans from the future. I haven't crossed anyone yet who thought they were remnants of our own species returning to find a very changed world. This may potentially explain why there is such secrecy about E.Ts. If people knew that our kind had already colonized other worlds, and were more advanced to boot, they'd probably want off of this rock. the ruling powers would then lose their slaves, and I don't think they'd like that. On a similar note, I used to day dream in high school about being part of a group of extremely ancient humans that went around seeding planets and terraforming them. In that day dream, a large celestial body caught them off guard while they were attempting to terraform and seed Mars, causing some serious destruction and death. The remnants of that group limped over to Earth and settled in. Over time they forgot about the larger collective they were part of. Eventually the collective sent out others to check on them and found they had changed, and decided to watch over them until they 'reevolved'. I even wrote a short story on it called "The Makers". I wish I still had it. ;D
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Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 4:11:56 GMT 1
Lloyd Pye is an interesting person. I've periodically checked in on the star child skull analysis. This thread is pretty good. I'll check back to see if Pye may have some time to spare. That would be great.
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Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 4:03:42 GMT 1
I think I caught this before sometime last year, and another one based on giants. Unless they're one in the same? ;D
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Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 3:39:39 GMT 1
I've always found the missing time phenomena and it's potential E.T/Black ops government associations to be interesting. I was wondering if anyone here has experienced this, or knows someone who has? I have personally experienced this a few times. Since I made the thread, it's only fair of me to go first. I was driving home one day from the next town over. The drive is only about 10 minutes, so no big deal. I started to drive over a large hill, when I noticed a strange static feeling. The next thing I know, I'm already down the hill, across a bridge and river, and less than a minute from my home. What happened between that, I have no idea. Unfortunately the clock in the car did not work at the time, and I don't wear a watch, so I don't have anything to really gauge it by. I mentioned this to a friend who said I could have just phased out and drove home on autopilot. That may have been the case, but I can't help but wonder what happened.
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Dreams
Jun 30, 2010 3:06:31 GMT 1
Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 3:06:31 GMT 1
Here's another that was more recent, sometime around this month...
My dream starts out with me walking in a large open field set in the middle of a forest. I'm walking around for about 30 seconds when it hits me that I'm dreaming. Once I figured that out, I started to manipulate my dream, and began to slowly fly around the field.
After a few minutes and passes around, I noticed a Bobcat exiting the woods and trotting toward me. I flew toward it knowing I was dreaming. When I got closer, it spoke which threw me off because I didn't plan for that. It asked me how I was flying. I told that I was dreaming, and that when I'm dreaming and conscious of it, that I can alter my dream as I see fit. It started to laugh and asked me if I was sure of that.
The setting changed almost instantaneously from the field/forest, to a strange room with unfamiliar architecture. There were two chairs in the room, and the Bobcat was now a tall human of about 6'8" with blond hair and turquoise eyes. The clothing he wore was similar to that of a monk, but the fabric was more refined and colored a red/purple coloration.
I asked where I was. The man told me I was in a construct designed for me, and that I was to soon attend a meeting. I asked who he was, and he told me that I was someone I knew from a previous life, but wouldn't directly answer me. I got annoyed and tried to leave. The man stopped me and told me that it was important that I stayed, and that it would only be a few minutes of my time. Since I was dreaming, I decided to play along.
I sat down in one of the chairs, and the man took the other. I asked where he was from. He told me that he was from a star system close to Earth. but didn't specify which. I was about to ask another question when this soft tone chimed in the room. The door opened, and the man stood up. He looked at me, told me it was time, and guided me to the door.
When I passed through the threshold, I found myself in a dimly lit amphitheater populated by many humanoids wearing hooded robes. I couldn't see what they looked like. There was a soft murmur when I entered the room. I was ushered to the center of the room which had a single fixated beam of soft yellow light. I stood there silently looking around, and turned to look for that odd blond haired man, who was now gone. One of them asked me to state my name, where I came from, and my purpose. I gave my name, the planet, and told them I considered myself to be a seeker of knowledge. There was some more whispering for a little while. I got annoyed by that and spoke directly to them. I asked who they were, and why I was there. Some of them got a little angry by that. I was told that I shouldn't speak out of turn, and that I was bold (lol).
They told me they were a group of beings from our galaxy that met periodically during times of Galactic shifts, and that Earth and 150 other planets were set to be focal points in an upcoming shift. I asked what that had to do with me. I was warned not to speak out of turn again, or the meeting would be terminated (oops ). They told me I was one of many who were experiencing this shift ahead of schedule, and wanted some sort of meeting to get an idea of the state of consciousness on Earth. They asked what my thoughts were on that. I told them that there were better candidates for that, and that I didn't consider myself to be that caliber. There was some whispering again, and then they asked a strange question.
They asked what I would do if I were given technology to harness free energy. I responded immediately and said that I would give it away freely to the parts of Earth that are more in need of it than the more developed nations. There was some silence then, and one could have heard a pin drop in the room. Some more whispering happened not soon after, but with more enthusiasm than before. They then said that they had misjudged Earth, and that the promise was there. I was thanked for my time, and the light I was standing in shut off. Just as that shut off, my alarm clock went off waking me up.
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Jun 30, 2010 3:00:08 GMT 1
Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 3:00:08 GMT 1
Here's another more recent one I had a few months ago...
I was sitting on some steps petting my sister's cat, when a triangular craft landed in yard I was in. I felt a positive energy from it, and oddly I wasn't in awe of the sight. It felt natural and commonplace. The cat I was petting wasn't moved either, which was strange.
Not long after the craft landed, 3 feline humanoids exited the craft wearing indigo colored robes. I smiled and waved, as they exited. They seemed a little confused by my gesture. When they got near, one of them approached me told me that they were glad to see I had treated their lesser cousins so well.
I invited them in, and we sat down and had a chat. I asked them some questions, one of which was what brought them to Earth. They said that they were emissaries of a group of beings from various galaxies that went around gauging potential of species at the time of their major astrological and consciousness shifts. They mentioned that there were several potentials at this time, and humans were only one of them. They said I was one of thousands on Earth experiencing this shift a little early, and that it explained differences in perceptions of society. They said that certain areas were watched by certain collectives, and in some cases, specific individuals. They didn't go into who or what specifically.
After the chat was over, I led them to their craft and woke up.
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Jun 30, 2010 2:43:40 GMT 1
Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 2:43:40 GMT 1
I've had many dreams involving ETs. I'll start with one of the first ones I can remember.
I was about 10-11 I think. From the age of about five, I had been having dreams involving little blue fairy people covered in hair. They had dog-like features, but were very humanoid.
In all the other dreams involving them up to that point, I was in a forest setting. Everything was transposed in a bright orange coloration, with a visible light pulsating action. The setting is always Autumn, which I later perceived to be symbolic of a transitional phase. I'm conscious of myself dreaming, and the fact that this is a dream, but it's incredibly vivid. I walk down the same worn path I have for years, and like usual I hear little giggles and whispering behind me. Previously when I turned to see, they would hide, they didn't do that this time. They did keep a distance though.
Eventually I would reach a clearing that went from the Autumn setting to a deep thick forest of oaks, with a night time backdrop. In the center of the clearing is a large circular stone slab with strange markings, similar to Celtic oak knots. Usually when I had reached that point, I would simply wake up. That wasn't the case this time. There was a larger one of the blue-folks there, who was about 4'5" I would estimate. We started speaking, and it dawned on me that I wasn't moving my lips or opening my mouth. That was quite a shock to me, which seemed to slightly amuse him (at least I perceived it to be a male). To sum it up, he told me that I had potential, but didn't specify what it meant by that. It then told me to wake up and look out my window.
Oddly enough, I did wake up right away. I didn't how-ever look out my window because in truth I was pretty scared, haha. I laid there too frightened to move by the vividness of the dream for a few minutes. I tried convincing myself that it was only a dream, and to prove that I worked up enough courage to look out my window. To my surprise, there were 3 red orbs seemingly dancing about across the road in an empty lot which happened to be near a forest area. I looked in shock for what I thought to be about a minute, but it was probably less than that because of the effects of fear, haha. After seeing that, I hid under my covers for a little while, and then checked again. They were gone.
This is something that's stuck with me over the years, and I've played it back over and over in my mind trying to make sense of it.
My logical side says that it was only a dream and the active imagination of a young boy. My other side says that there is something to it, especially noting the fact that there was no visible strobe effect one would associate with the red lights of an emergency service vehicle.
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Jun 30, 2010 2:24:55 GMT 1
Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 2:24:55 GMT 1
I was having some very disturbing dreams about 8/9 months ago, they contained horrible creatures in it, lots of blood, screaming etc and I would always wake up to shadows in my room, but they were shadows where there shouldn't be (as i sleep with the light on, another, longer story) I was waking up with what were like Bug bites on my body (but the Isle of Man is very sacre on the whole Biting bug front), I would also have short, sharpe stabbing pains and somtimes hard breathing. What was even weirder was the top of my quilt was soaking but not the under it or the bed so that ruled out bed wetting and sweating, I also changed the position of my bed several times and even slept in my flatmates room for a few nights and had the same experience but from about April/May time they seemed to have stop. Hmm, a few potential explanations come to mind. The first is a little more practical. 1. Inspect your sheets and bedding for little red crystalline orbs, and moltings. These are signs of parasitic insects like fleas and bed bugs. Fleas tend to go for fabrics that are dark and capable of holding moisture. Bed bugs like it a bit drier. They prefer confined spaces like the corners of walls and little nooks. If you don't find any of that, it's likely there are no bugs. 2. You may be having 'kundalini' effects while you enter deep sleep. If it goes unchecked, the results can be miniaturized electronic spikes that leave little sores on your skin. 3. You may have some sort of interdimensional parasitic being inducing these effects to feed off of your energy. You can try standardized protection methods if you feel this is applicable, but in the long run you may have to face what-ever it is directly.
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Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 2:12:56 GMT 1
I wonder if that area is on some sort of grid line that makes things go haywire? Just a thought. My thoughts exactly. It could have been Coco entering a small energetic pocket rift. It's well known that the powers that be like to build on sites of energy. How-ever, I believe that only certain folks who have accessed portions of higher consciousness may have the ability to bring out these effects, essentially being catalysts.
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Post by mrindigo on Jun 30, 2010 2:05:14 GMT 1
Interesting, though I admit this is the first I knew of this researcher. That would be cool if he agreed to give you guys some sort of interview.
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Post by mrindigo on Jun 5, 2010 14:16:53 GMT 1
Hello everyone!
After browsing these forums, I decided to join up. UFOs have been a topic of interest for me for some time.
I don't view all UFOs as interstellar/interdimensional crafts. Many in fact are common objects, or unfortunately hoaxed. I'm interested in weeding these out focus on the less easily explainable sightings, as it gives more credibility and validity to the phenomena. The real ones are there!
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