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Post by uforn on Oct 15, 2012 22:28:50 GMT 1
Thats what Dan Burisch called them (this is where the name came from)
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Post by uforn on Oct 15, 2012 22:15:35 GMT 1
Ok I need to watch this again (Ive got it taped) but I noticed with John Lear that he talked about the J-Rods, which is a name of an Alien given to us by Dan Burisch. We have been talking about this here uforesearchnetwork.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=newmembers&action=display&thread=2966&page=1Dan Burisch is a proven fraud, I believe he took Bob Lazars story and put his own twist on it. Now then Bob exposed Area 51 in 1989, John Lear played a part in this story as he was friends with Bob. Bob never mentioned in his statements of meeting any aliens or anything like that, nor did he give a name to an alien or alien race. So this is where it gets interesting, John Lear has been a big supporter of Lazar from the begining, but Bob never mentioned J-Rod aliens, in fact Bob Lazar made a statement on Dan Burisch claiming not to believe a word this guy says. So what game is lear playing here as it looks to me that he is supporting both storys when we know one of then is totally false
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Post by uforn on Oct 15, 2012 21:51:34 GMT 1
WOW @ John Lear............ I said a few years ago john lear was off his rocker, lol This docu is going to cause a stir you watch.... tick tock tick tock
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Post by uforn on Oct 15, 2012 21:40:28 GMT 1
WOW @ John Lear............
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Post by uforn on Oct 15, 2012 21:32:44 GMT 1
Im watching this now, Ive missed the first 20 mins tho, so lets see what this has to offer
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Post by uforn on Oct 15, 2012 17:20:21 GMT 1
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Post by uforn on Oct 15, 2012 17:17:18 GMT 1
Its a good site and helps with the UFO research in respect to where venus is situated etc. Ive also got an app on my iphone that gives a 3d view of all the stars and planets that are visible
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Post by uforn on Oct 14, 2012 13:48:17 GMT 1
Can you not hook it up to your laptop and record on that?
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Post by uforn on Oct 13, 2012 15:23:49 GMT 1
Yes they do as using HOAX material on this forum will not be tolerated. So are you telling me you knew the Images were faked? And did you also know your cropcircle footage was faked ? If the photos were indeed faked, then I would have never included them. As for the "faked" crop circle footage, I included my source already. It comes from the movie, "Crop Circles - Crossover From Another Dimension." I don't know how an old man with a video camera can fake an unstabilized video and show it to his friends minutes later, only to then have the proof substantiated the following morning by aerial photographs of a 100 yard plus crop circle. The cropcircle was indeed real, the footage of the orbs creating it is a HOAX it was done by a guy called John Whaley (Wheyleigh/Wabe). He worked for a production company called First Cut TV. He admitted the HOAX on Nippon TV. The cropcircle & video is known as the Oliver's Castle footage. Here is a very good link that explains this HOAX in great detail. www.robertschoch.net/Crop%20Circle%20Video%20Oliver's%20Castle%20Fraud%20LWCMD%20CT.htm Now that you know the footage you have used is Fake, are you going to remove the video from youtube? You dont want to deceive anyone do you ?
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Post by uforn on Oct 12, 2012 19:29:44 GMT 1
here's a thing. a book I have and re read called simply the UFO phenomenon by john michael greer 2009, it says in this book that 50% of Americans believe in UFOs, so if that's the same here then the BBC are taking the piss out of half the population. The BBC have been taking the piss out of "everyone" since they started tv mate
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Post by uforn on Oct 12, 2012 16:04:44 GMT 1
Can you give us some information as to what is at that link?
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Post by uforn on Oct 12, 2012 13:15:28 GMT 1
I cant see this being anygood, the BBC has always ridiculed this subject. Its on BBC Three at 9pm (uk time) Monday 15th Oct.
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Post by uforn on Oct 11, 2012 15:52:26 GMT 1
Did you bother to even read this floyd ?
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Post by uforn on Oct 11, 2012 15:33:28 GMT 1
However, the faked pictures still have no relevance on the argument. Yes they do as using HOAX material on this forum will not be tolerated. So are you telling me you knew the Images were faked? And did you also know your cropcircle footage was faked ?
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Post by uforn on Oct 11, 2012 14:36:12 GMT 1
This has been known about for quite some time amongst UFO Researchers. Project 1794 also known as Project Silverbug was the successor to the Avrocar, here's a very good website on Project Silverbug greyfalcon.us/restored/Project%20Silver%20Bug.htm
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Post by uforn on Oct 11, 2012 14:34:00 GMT 1
U.S. Air Force flying saucer declassified Diagram of the Project 1794 flying saucer. (Credit: USAF / National Archives) Recently declassified records from the United States Air Force’s Aeronautical Systems Division reveal plans from the 1950s to develop a flying saucer. The National Archives recently published the details of this project called Project 1794. Wired.com explains that, had the craft been completed, it would have been able to “spin through the Earth’s stratosphere at an average top speed of about 2,600 miles per hour.” The specs show the craft was designed to be a vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) plane, “using propulsion jets to control and stabilize the aircraft.” The documents reveal that the air force had contracted with the now-defunct Canadian company, Avro Aircraft Limited in Ontario, to construct the flying saucer. Many UFO researchers have known for years about the air force’s flying saucer projects. Aerospace historian Michael Schratt published an article on this website in 2010 about an air force flying disc project. So the recently declassified information regarding Project 1794 isn’t much of a surprise. But it is still interesting to see the official details published and available to the public. Source: www.openminds.tv/u-s-air-force-flying-saucer-declassified-857/
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Post by uforn on Oct 9, 2012 17:55:50 GMT 1
the more I read your words.... I find you interesting... In what way do you find me interesting blu ?
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Post by uforn on Oct 9, 2012 17:18:28 GMT 1
I dont trust anything that Dan is saying any more or less then I trust what the UFO watchdog may or may not be saying about him... meaning... maybe there are motives on both sides that involve hidden aspects to stories the mainstream public is not aware... Ok, well it wasnt just UFO Watchdog that exposed Dan Burisch as a fraud. George Knapp and UFO Magazine did Investigations on him also. Reguarding UFO Magazine I believe it was Vol, 19 No. 4 that has all the investigations done on Burisch, ( if anyone has this issue please let us know ) You can get this issue here: www.ufomag.com/ufo-magazine-archive/volume-19-2004/vol-19-no-4-111.htmlMeldrew ~ Linda Moulton Howe was indeed involved in this Did you check Kerry Cassidy & Project Camelot out blu? Burisch once claimed to have the cure to Cancer He also claimed to have discovered the first seeds of life on earth, on Frenchman's Mountain Ill let you dig into that as Im not going to spoon feed you everything. Ill start with Linda, she claims that Burisch graduated from SUNY Stonybrook with a Ph.D. in Microbiology and Molecular Genetics. But looking at Burisch's background that isnt true. Below is a document of Burisch's background: No-where in that document does it state that he has a Ph.D. in Microbiology and Molecular Genetics. Nor does it state that he graduated from SUNY Stonybrook. Here's a quote said to be from Linda ( I believe this quote is entirely true as it is her style ) Quote: Linda Howe on national radio say's she didn't need to verify any of Burisch's credentials as Burisch's sincerity was proof enough |
If your not familiar with Linda google her. George Knapp also Investigated Burisch like I said so you should look into his Investigation. Here's one link to get you started: www.8newsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=4190378George Knapp on Burisch claim that he got a doctorate in 1990 at Stony Brook University in New York. Quote: The school says he was never a student there. records show, he had a full time job in Las Vegas as a parole officer |
Burisch claimed he worked out at S4, this is where Bob Lazar claimed he worked. Burisch claims he worked at S4 in 1994. Bob Lazar told his story in 1989. Here's my take on Burisch, he heard Bob Lazars claim and thought he could make it better in his own way so he came up with a story involving an Alien he named J-Rod and invented the whole thing. He has not provided anything to corraborate any of his claims, unlike Bob Lazar who has. Well it just so happens Bob Lazar had something to say about this. Quote: "This is the biggest bull***t story I have ever heard in my life. Anybody that actually believes this guy should be ashamed of themselves. I never worked at Tonopah. I never met this knucklehead," said Bob Lazar. |
Here's the links: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dan_burisch/esp_dan_burisch_10.htmwww.ufowatchdog.com/burischdirtbag.htmwww.8newsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=4190378EDIT: to add link to UFO Magazine
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Post by uforn on Oct 9, 2012 15:32:09 GMT 1
While I have not researched all of the cases you offer, from just my initial reaction it is the Betty and Barnie Hill case... a very interesting twist that is about to come out in a movie... has to do with the connection between Betty Hill and Stan Romanek. If you have not heard.... In one of Stans abductions... he claims to have been returned... in a womans night gown... well... it was a Micky Mouse sleep shirt.... not knowing what happened..... after Betty Hill died, Bettys niece contacts Stan and ask him... on the night you woke up in the Micky Mouse sleep shirt.... do you remember what you were wearing at the time... he said yes.... it was a shirt a friend gave him that said.... (not entirely sure of the exact phrase) but... something like.... I was abucted by space aliens and all they gave me was this stupid tee shirt.... so... the niece... goes back and looks through her grand mothers clothes and finds... this same shirt..... now... is it true... I dont know... but... in the movie... about to be releasse in Dec.... i have been told that dna testing was done and the results are to verify this story to be true.... 54 minute mark to hear stan tell this story in his words... youtu.be/b878zTEdKtkAre you a Stan Romanek supporter ? As youve mentioned his name quite a few times.
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Post by uforn on Oct 8, 2012 19:21:07 GMT 1
Here a a snippit transcript... D is Dan Burisch K is Katie Cassidy from Project Camolot D: Probably not. And we actually had three kinds of extra-terrestrials, human lineage extra-terrestrials, present. Two kinds of P+45,000 years from now if we were to translate over to Timeline 2. (Difficult subjects, aren’t they?) [smiling] Ah... two representatives from that time. Two representatives from P+52,000 years ahead J-Rods... both of which generally have the anatomical configuration of what would be in ufology called Grays. K: OK. D: Gray aliens. And two representatives from P+52,000 Orions who would generally, I guess, in ufological circles I guess one could say, would call Nordics... or Talls. K: OK. And, and .. were there... D: Actually they are more human-like, but have larger eyes, very blue eyes, blondish hair, etcetera. K: I see. And... OK, well, of course I’ve got many questions on this score... D: So do I. K: [laughs] But, and for people listening, we would also like to know, were there any “reptilians” present? D: ...No.... not per se. K: Ok, can you... D: What I’ve come to understand... and it’s generally held ... I think I can say it’s generally held within our society... that the notion of a reptilian is a misnomer. And I’m not saying that to apply a negative connotation to the stories that individuals have brought forward, probably mostly forthrightly... Portals = Micro-Wormholes? ...But that when you view or observe, ah, what would be called a Gray... what I would call a J-Rod... ah... the particular ruddy configuration of their skin, that changes in the sudoriferous glandular structure of their... of their skin, can make them appear, during exacerbations of the illness, very reptilian in appearance. And also possibly preying mantis type, ah, in appearance. They have... They are also suffering from a Cockayne-like syndrome which makes them lurch forward, so they appear very preying mantis-like. So I think that possibly many of the accounts which have forthrightly come from individuals who have actually been abducted by the P-45s, have maybe been interpreted as being reptilian in appearance because of their skin structure. But they’re not really reptiles. K: OK. D: Now, I’m not saying.... I’m trying to be inclusive here ... that there are things in they... the... in the mind of man and in the glorious universe of God that I don’t know. That there’s a possibility that individuals have been... have encountered alien species not to my reference. Given the fact... I mean, you know... Gosh, I’ve had to accept the fact that there are human beings that many years ahead of us on another timeline co-existing in reality. How hard would it be for me accept that there are other extra-terrestrials of non-human lineage? Of which I’ve only been briefed about one, which was an extra-dimensional species, who have referenced other extra-terrestrial species that I know nothing about. K: Mm hm. D: How hard is it for me to accept that, after I’ve been in the presence of a human-lineage extra-terrestrial? I don’t have a problem with that, but at the same time I don’t have evidence to support it either. “Reptilian” in that, if one were under stress, and one had no previous reference to their biology, their pathophysiology, their particular problems, one could reasonably expect, out of a group of people experiencing them, that more than fifty percent of the group could probably say that they were reptilian in appearance. K: Hm. OK, that’s interesting. D: That’s the best I can say... K: So their appearance morphs to some degree into more of a reptilian... Oh dear, project camelot is a scam mate just google Kerry Cassidy, ( its Kerry not Katie ). I already knew the answer to my question I wanted to know if you did. This whole story is a HOAX, take a look at the now defunct UFO Watchdog article on Dan Burisch, here's the link: www.ufowatchdog.com/burischdirtbag.htm
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Post by uforn on Oct 8, 2012 18:03:14 GMT 1
Was J-rod not the name of the supposed Alien?
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Post by uforn on Oct 6, 2012 17:15:37 GMT 1
Come on floyd mate, you know better than anyone not to post a video without a description. I guess you had a late night and were tired
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Post by uforn on Oct 6, 2012 16:56:31 GMT 1
we still haven't sorted out the Foo Fighter issue. as Khan from star trek would say, "this subject vexes me". we have only skirted the Foo Fighters, I feel sure we could find out a lot more about them, nearly 70 years later we don't know, and the image of Concorde with a Foo Fighter beside it Vexes me. By all means mate go and find all you can on this, Ill help when I get chance, you have no idea what Ive got going at the min, Im trying to restructure the forum as well as do research and keep up to date with all the current info. Not easy
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Post by uforn on Oct 6, 2012 14:09:11 GMT 1
You have tryed to push the "all ufos" are spirits or demons to us, you have not provided one shred of evidence to back up these claims. You say we have our minds made up, show us some real evidence then ? Well, I already said I will stop talking about this point of view, but if you insist... I can start a new thread with all my sources. Do I have your permission? I need a time-stamp. If you are talking about the orbs forming a crop circle video clip, I can provide you with my source. I have asked for a source for the supposed faked USAF saucer pictures, only with no response from anyone on any other boards yet. -SB You can provide your source for the orbs creating the crop circle as that is a HOAX. As for the photo of the the UFO's outside Hanger 18 at Wright field Airforce base that is also a HOAX. Scott Crossfield poses in front of the D-558-2, its B-29 mothership, F-86 chase planes, and support crew
Photoshopped Photo Below is another image relating to this HOAX which you should keep for future reference so that you dont make the same mistake again. Supposed saucer in flight with an F-86 Sabre Actual photo of the D-558-2 Skyrocket in flight with an F-86 Sabre
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Post by uforn on Oct 5, 2012 20:05:06 GMT 1
I see you found this forum through the Latest UFO Sightings website, whom we are the forum for. Yes Ive noticed its not made clear on that site, Ive spoke about this before with the admin of the site but to no avail. Your here now tho so enjoy the forum, Ill lok forward to your posts
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Post by uforn on Oct 5, 2012 19:51:01 GMT 1
Welcome to UFORN blu (thats what Ill call you) You have been visiting for a year everyday, why didnt you sign up before? Im after feedback from members on the reasons people dont talk but yet are active on the forum? Everyones opinions matter so feel free to say what you think
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Post by uforn on Oct 5, 2012 19:23:02 GMT 1
I dont agree, they never solved their problems in fact they lost everything, story hasnt changed in 37 yrs If one of them wanted to benefit from this story and make money then they could have done so easily, but none of them have why not? Some of them fell out bigtime and never spoke for years, so why didnt they expose this? They would have benefited from the exposure. the whole thing got out of hand, they didn't plan for that, they just wanted to carry on wood cutting and getting drunk n stoned, I don't see that having a fall out has any bearing on this, perhaps they made a pact like a masonic pact never to deviate from the story on pain of death, and trying as I am not to be rude but "hillbilly" and "intelligence" are things that don't help their case, so a friend said Travis doesn't lie ? well in that case Travis is the only human being ever not to lie, I need to see something to back the case up, and I'm not seeing anything. I still dont agree with that hypothesis, people cant keep a secret and that is a FACT, they cant wait to talk about things and if they could make money they would, I dont buy it at all. Ive watched and read many documentarys & articles in this case, and I dont see any deception. Nor do I know they took drugs? How do you know they took drugs? (Ive not seen anything to suggest they did) is there any evidence on this at all ? Or is that just heresy?
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Post by uforn on Oct 5, 2012 18:39:00 GMT 1
the lie detector test was flawed, the wrong questions were asked on the test they passed, the first test was a fail so the journalists paid for a new test and a new tester with different questions so the person being tested passed. from experience I can say this, a gang of woodcutters spend a lot of time sitting around a camp fire talking stuff and consuming stuff and plots will be hatched, it seems to me they made up the plot not realising it would get out of hand, this has happened in other cases too, they were about to lose their contract ? they would have been made bankrupt ? what better way then to solve their problems than to say "we were buzzed by a space ship and Travis got beamed up" drink and drugs would impair the senses and thoughts of those involved, causing them to think they will get away with it, once the horse had bolted they had to go with it. What is there to say he was telling the truth, there is nothing but his and his co conspirators word, I'll stake my UFOtesticle career on it ;D I dont agree, they never solved their problems in fact they lost everything, story hasnt changed in 37 yrs If one of them wanted to benefit from this story and make money then they could have done so easily, but none of them have why not? Some of them fell out bigtime and never spoke for years, so why didnt they expose this? They would have benefited from the exposure.
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