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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 15:58:28 GMT 1
Hello All,
This is a small reminder that the "Say Hello to ET" event on July 20, 2011 @ 5:20am GMT is now only 4 months away. Unbelievable that a month has already flown by!. Hope all are well.
Regards, hiflier.
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Post by Laurance on Mar 20, 2011 17:08:44 GMT 1
The wat event? I mus have missed the memo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 23:53:04 GMT 1
Hello laurance,
Please accept my apology for the delay. I did not author this notice but the author is signed at the end:
We ask ET to come to our skies globally on the date given so that we can begin to clear up the confusion that humanity has about them. I, like many people, have a picture based on the sum total of my experiences, and this picture, when compared to what other people have to say, is, as usual, different. The confusion level in this topic is too high, and it must be dealt with. Operation Asking will be the first step in an attempt to eliminate this confusion, and where we go from here will be based on the outcome of this first attempt at contact. Also, it needs to be understood that there is NO leadership in this picture. The idea is to get the word out globally and each and every person who wishes to try this will stand on their own two feet and simply pass the word along to every spot on the globe. This is NOT a “me” project – this is a “humanity” project. I will answer questions if necessary, but the idea is that people need to focus on themselves and on completing this project if they want it done: the picture is super-simple.
The date used in this ( 7 / 20 / 2011 @ 5:20 AM Greenwich time ) only has to do with my final conclusions and is NOT something people have to adopt as a belief. Everyone is free to continue to believe whatever they choose regarding ET, including the notion that ET is here to do us harm. I have never had an ounce of trouble from them since 1955 when my experiences began, and there are others who say the same thing. One side or the other is wrong in this dual-aspect picture, and we will hopefully clear THIS problem up once and for all.
This date of 7 / 20 / 11 marks the time when the Orion nebula rises with the sun as viewed from Stonehenge. The nebula is the archetype for a symbol that we have lost, whose age goes back some 40,000 years. Stonehenge was chosen for its ancient history and picture, and for no other reason. This is OUR date and OUR picture for this - period. No one is forcing anyone to believe what I have found concerning it.
Regarding the why's of this “asking to come”:
In the topic of UFOs one picture has remained constant - the overall uniform confusion and resultant guesswork regarding ET and their flitting presence in our skies. In all of these years of ‘things happening’, there is still no uniform consensus as to what is going on, so, on the date selected, we are ‘ASKING THEM’ to provide the people of earth with evidence of their presence and put at least that much of the problem to rest. For those who believe the so-called “Powers That Be” have this type of flying technology and could fool us, let me just say that even if this was true and they had flying UFO-like craft, they cannot have as many ships as it would take to fill our skies on a global level – so, that ends THAT problem. Also, we are NOT asking for a landing, as quite frankly I believe this would upset a great many people, and the appearance in the sky, for some, would be upsetting enough. The picture involved is really no different than a young child's first look out of a window, and learning that there is more to his or her world than the house they live in. As the child grows, the picture of the world becomes larger still; this is just the next step in that picture's enlargement.
Regarding the HOW'S of "asking" ET to show up on that date, I leave this up to you. Some people, like myself, know for a fact their life is closely monitored; others are not sure. Do whatever you feel you should do to get a message out to them, if indeed you feel this is even necessary. Personally, I feel they watch everything here and know exactly what’s going on, so I do not believe there will be a problem.
One last thing ... there is no way this arrival can be guaranteed to happen – we are asking; there may be things we do not know about. Personally, I think it will happen as they have been doing this for decades, just not in a global organized manor. Also, we are not asking them to fly over restricted airspace and cause a military panic (even though this seems to happen fairly regularly). We are leaving the ‘hows’ of this picture up to them.
I believe the time has come for us as a people to grow up and meet the neighbors. I believe the time has come to TRY and eliminate the questions we have been plagued with for decades regarding ET and their presence here. It seems the world leaders cannot be trusted to share what they know - if indeed they know anything. This is OUR planet – not theirs - and we want to know. We the people - have spoken.
Please copy and paste this message to everyone you know, on every spot on the globe.
This email address is for important and not casual contact. Spam will be dealt with.
Thank you OC onlychild@ftml.net
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 1:12:28 GMT 1
Hello All,
Two months have gone by since the notice for the 7/20/2011 was initially posted. Three months remain. Be patient. At this time the notice on the many Forums has collectively received around 7,000 views. I sincerely thank the Administrators, Moderators and Members of this Forum for your kind patience! A new reminder will be issued on 5/20. In the interim, questions are welcome either as posts or, if one prefers, Private Message.
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Post by uforn on Apr 21, 2011 2:51:48 GMT 1
There you go hiflier sorted
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2011 2:28:49 GMT 1
Hello All,
I'm taking my leave and as far as I know this thread will fade away into obscurity. That's ok because, if it's OK with the Admins and Mods I will be back May 20 to revive the idea.
In the interim good posting to all the members here and I wish everyone well. Being an individual voluntary effort keeps it pure and no one will be able to go power tripping or be the boss. 7/20/2011 will be there for anyone who wants it. Join in or not. your own personal choice and it's free with no strings attached. As the pursuit of truth always should be!
Regards and my best to all. hiflier.
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Post by simplyerik on Apr 24, 2011 6:18:29 GMT 1
I'm definitely going to join in as I do this every day anyways .
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Post by meldrew on Apr 24, 2011 13:01:41 GMT 1
new age hocus pocus in my view, this was done in the film quatermass in the 60s, this sort of thing really does make me roll my eyes, but if there is naked dancing around a bombfire then I'm well up for it lol
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Post by uforn on Apr 24, 2011 13:23:08 GMT 1
new age hocus pocus in my view, this was done in the film quatermass in the 60s, this sort of thing really does make me roll my eyes, but if there is naked dancing around a bombfire then I'm well up for it lol LOL hello m8 hows you ? I think its channeling rubbish too m8 ive spoke with hiflier about it and gave him permission to post it on here, tho i dont in any way believe in this kind of thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2011 23:45:42 GMT 1
Hello All,
The term "hocus pocus" does tend to invite the idea of something mysterious, shady, or some type of scam or a kind of shell bait and switch ploy. If one reads the notice it should be plain that it's none of those...........must not be hocus pocus then. Also WRT channeling that implies getting a message from some spirit or telepathic source and passing it along by acting or playing a medium or vehicle of some sort for the sender to utilize.I don't see that concept anywhere in the notice either.
So what is the notice really saying then? Basically that an event to ask ET to show is going to occur. And that is all it's saying. A guarantee of a showing is not and cannot be guaranteed. How could it? Each individual has free choice to participate or not. It's open to all. The only structure is the date and time so that everyone who wishes to be involved can be involved with everyone else at the same time. No one but the individual will know if they partook. There are no bosses, there is no central headquarters. The entire thing is 100% unsupervised. So do or not do, it's up to the individual. It's a completely free and open event. The whole endeavor might last a minute. So at 5:21 GMT it will be over. Unless someone wants to keep "asking" for longer.
There is nothing that I can see about the event that is in any way a sham for believers. It is only a time that has been set up for them to take some action for themselves if they so desire. Honestly, that all it is and all there is to it. There are no trap doors, no smoke and mirrors, and no hidden agendas. I appreciate your willingness to allow this Forum the chance to see and hopefully understand what 7/20, in it's simplicity is all about. Thank you, uforn, and anyone else with questions or comments. I'll keep watch for a day or two if anyone would like more clarification.
Regards, hiflier.
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Post by meldrew on Apr 25, 2011 10:03:01 GMT 1
do you hiflier honestly believe that ufos will appear if you concentrate hard enough ? oh come on, I have been researching ufology for a long time and have an open mind, but this is pure garbage and frankly embarrassing, up there with rain dances and seances and pretend healers who ask for cash for miracles, I've also noticed you've spammed other forums with this drivel and have little response from them, thanks for explaining what hocus pocus really means. regards meldrew.
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Apr 25, 2011 12:39:30 GMT 1
Hear hear lol. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2011 12:55:20 GMT 1
Hello meldrew do you hiflier honestly believe that ufos will appear if you concentrate hard enough ? oh come on, I have been researching ufology for a long time and have an open mind, but this is pure garbage and frankly embarrassing, up there with rain dances and seances and pretend healers who ask for cash for miracles, I've also noticed you've spammed other forums with this drivel and have little response from them, thanks for explaining what hocus pocus really means. regards meldrew. With all of your "research" to back you, why do you only present your opinion? Heck everyone has an opinion. Your comparing of this event with activities more in line with the spiritual realm is an indication that you do not really have an argument based in fact. You have your opinion and that's it as far as I can tell. You say you have done research. The author of this notice has 37 years of research to draw on but is the first person to admit that none of it can be proved. There is no such thing as an "expert" in the field of UFOs. Do you consider yourself one? Do you have an alternative approach to the issue that will help to make any progress or shed any light whatsoever WRT to finding out the truth of ETs and UFOs? My guess is NO you don't. But you somehow think you are in a good place from which to slam anyone else who wants to try. Even your own "research" (don't even know what that means) should have come across the reports of telepathic communication between a witness or a reported abductee and aliens. So what gives with you? Are you perhaps a UFO conference vendor, or supplier of the junk they sell at such events? Maybe an owner of a venue that hosts the events every year? If that is the case then an ET no-show could potentially put a large hole in your ANNUAL cash cow! You must know that believers get fleeced thinking they will get what the want and end up with nothing-EVERY YEAR! Billions of dollars made as long as the truth of ET and UFO remains an unknown. No one is trying to help these people at all! So maybe you're be involved in the biz somehow? If not then what are you doing in the meantime on behalf of the UFO community? You only asked one question so I will answer it. I don't believe in ET at all for starters. That's the other reason I'm involved in this. I believe in the possibility, but not the probability. Now I respectfully ask that you as a researcher back up everything you said in your post with facts. If you can't then I for one understand because there are none. But as you know full well yourself, sir, there is a veritable flood of opinion. Given the choice I'll take the fact side everytime! What about you? Can you PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that this endeavor at the large scale that it's going be at will not work? No you cannot. Regards, hiflier.
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Post by uforn on Apr 25, 2011 13:05:20 GMT 1
Hiflier you say you dont believe in ET at all, so when this channeling thing doesnt come to anything what would that say to you ?
As far as i can see it nothing will happen at all doesnt mean ET doesnt exist.
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Post by meldrew on Apr 25, 2011 13:40:26 GMT 1
the reason I present an opinion is 1.) I was being polite and didn't want to blast you out of the water, 2.) I have been down this soggy path before with others of your ilk, I have had all sorts try it on (even a so called nordic commander who fought the grays and ran them out of dulce) so why should I bother with this" say hello to et" rubbish, it puts us who are a tad serious in a bad light and I don't want to be thought of as a new age hippie, I will not endorse this sort of clap trap. regards, meldrew.
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Apr 25, 2011 13:41:51 GMT 1
Gday hiflier 92 days & counting to bullshiat. Dont come on this forum advertising your self gain crap k.Dont knock a senior forum member with the best knowledge who has contributed to this forum greatly with incredible knowledge.I havent seen or read a post from you on anything lol.Wtf are you?Share us some of your wisdom x knowledge mr hiflier for the world to see?lol.Always curious on peoples thoughts & beliefs.You know the old saying put up or shut the - - - - -- lol. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by uforn on Apr 25, 2011 17:39:35 GMT 1
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Post by meldrew on Apr 25, 2011 18:13:34 GMT 1
yes I was having a little joke judge, I got this off the B/S web site which also has pics of ladies in tight shorts, I did put a lol in so as to make it seem ridiculous which is what this thread is. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2011 22:23:13 GMT 1
Hello uforn, Hiflier you say you dont believe in ET at all, so when this channeling thing doesnt come to anything what would that say to you ? As far as i can see it nothing will happen at all doesnt mean ET doesnt exist. Since I don't believe in ET a no-show will be just that. A no-show. So it means nothing to me really since I expected no different to begin with. That's why this is not about me. It's not about you either, nor is it about meldrew. It's about the believers. I don't have an ET theory, hypothesis, a list of species and where they hail from to hype anyone with. Nor do I have any doctrine of any sort to push or convince anyone of, nor anything to sell. This particular"ilk" has been on an astronomy Forum for over four years. It's a fairly factual environment to put it mildly. Science. You've heard the term? But this isn't about me no matter how hard you try to push it in that direction. But I understand that as long as you keep the conversation steered in that direction then it gives you an avenue for hostility. And that's OK. But it's pointless and even a little shameful really. Other folks have played the same game so you are not acting something unexpected or different. Now what about "simplyerik"? I talked with him before and his recent post was completely ignored by all of you. Are you going to blast him too for wanting to do this? I don't blame anyone for wanting to know what's behind this Event and my presenting it. I personally have not much knowledge about UFOs. Maybe I could tap into some of that "incredible knowledge" that meldrew has and learn a thing or two from him other than that he has a bad attitude. An opinion of course because I've already blasted him out of the water. And if I say that this event is not channeling, AND give a definition, and the word "channelling" is used in the very next post I pretty much know it's intentional to raise the flame bar. Sorry doesn't work that way. BTW simplyerik you've got guts as a believer to want to do this and that's exactly what believers will need on 7/20. Just wanted you to know that. Now if you folks are finished burning the ol' OP at the stake I'll go back to my hiatus. I have a chess tournament to study for so I can go and blast someone's king out of the water .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2011 22:51:00 GMT 1
Hello prettyboyfloyd, Gday hiflier 92 days & counting to bullshiat. Dont come on this forum advertising your self gain crap k.Dont knock a senior forum member with the best knowledge who has contributed to this forum greatly with incredible knowledge.I havent seen or read a post from you on anything lol.Wtf are you?Share us some of your wisdom x knowledge mr hiflier for the world to see?lol.Always curious on peoples thoughts & beliefs.You know the old saying put up or shut the - - - - -- lol. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd I'll bet few folks on this Forum if any know the story of Pretty Boy Floyd aka Charles Arthur Floyd. I have Mcmurtry's fictional novel from 1994 and heard Woody Guthrie's Ballad when it came out in 1958. Charley Floyd was quite the guy. However, this isn't about PBF. If I was going to advertise my "self gain crap" I can guarantee you it wouldn't be on an UFO Forum. I'm a bit like a duck out of water here. And, not only that, I only gain anything personally if I pursue facts. And, WRT UFOs and the supposed aliens, as far as I can see, there are none to be had. I'm actually pursuing the enigma of the infamous Black Triangles but from a military/scientific standpoint as I do not believe they are ET. So IMHO for anyone to think they can gain anything in the way of solid proveable stuff on an UFO Forum is pretty much a pipedream. Ya think?
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Post by meldrew on Apr 25, 2011 23:25:22 GMT 1
if you go back a few posts you will read that you flamed me not I you, I flamed the concept of getting up at 4 am and talking to the bloody sky in the hope of an ufo appearing, a good salesman believes in what they sell wouldn't you agree. regards, bad attitude meldrew.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 0:12:35 GMT 1
Hellomeldrew,
Yes, I do agree, and apologize to you and the Forum for my own attitude. Being human can be outrageously embarrassing at times like these. And I did go back and saw the bonfire senario and laughed (again). Heck who wouldnt go if that were in the offing. Now no one can guarantee an ET display but with a little planning and word of mouth adv. the bonfire thing could be.
In all seriousness though my experience on my home Forum was one of dialogue that went round and round with absolutely no end in sight. After 2 months nothing had changed. But I did, through reading reports, get a better picture of the Big Black Deltas. I heard somewhere back in Sept. that someone saw one and, intrigued, I joined the Forum. You know how things can go. I realized that delving onto them scientifically would require a group of members to focus on the different aspects of any given sighting and establish a pattern. MUFON, NUFORC, and the now defunct NIDS were just dead ends of course. Members were either fearful or not interested, with the exception of a couple.
One of them was the author of the announcement. I had seen so much dialogue going nowhere and nothing but debate (60 yrs. worth) when out of the blue the author presented the idea of contacting ET en force. I figured with millions of believers who have been waiting for some kind of answer why not post the idea and let people know that there was a plan in place to present them an opportunity to take some action for themselves. Get involved in something that bypasses every established UFO authority known to man and help them to stop feeling the victim of some conspiracy or secret government agenda.
With some editing I agreed to post the notice and figured I would be the right choice to do so because I, even though not a believer, was the most objective and unbiased person of the group. The only thing I believe WRT the notice is that it will occur. People, even fearful people, have said that they will do this. And good for them if they do IMHO. The exercise will, hopefully at least, empower them to continue in the pursuit of an answer always. Even if nothing happens on 7/20. And that is pretty much the story AND I've told the truth.
And my regards to you as well, meldrew. Thank you for your reply.
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Post by meldrew on Apr 26, 2011 10:15:08 GMT 1
thanks for clearing that up, this is a controversial subject at the best of times, we all disagree with each other at times, especially on whether a video is a hoax or not, we all have a viewpoint on subjects like abduction and contactees, throw in hypnosis and the insanity of certain individuals and a bit of attention seeking, self promotion and fraud then you have a very fine stew indeed, the truth is I was laughing at this concept of saying hello to et, I was in a good mood lol, you should be there when I do get the hump. regards, happy meldrew
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Post by uforn on Apr 26, 2011 10:30:44 GMT 1
Hello uforn, Hiflier you say you dont believe in ET at all, so when this channeling thing doesnt come to anything what would that say to you ? As far as i can see it nothing will happen at all doesnt mean ET doesnt exist. Its been posted on a public forum so ive every right to question you. You talk of science, most scientists believe in Alien Life, Stephen Hawkings and Michio Kaku to name just 2. And what about the scientists that are associated with UFO's does there testimony and researrch not count ? And what is it going to prove to us when it doesnt happen most of the people on here believe in Aliens ? BTW i believe in Aliens So who is behind all of this then ? And where have i been hostile with you ? I gave you permission to post this thread and also merged them for you. If Simplyerik wants to wake up on a morning and speak out to ET thats up to him. He's not the one pushing this all over the net on the UFO forums, you are. You say you dont have much knowledge on UFO's, Dont you think you should go and educate yourself properly on the subject before making claims Aliens dont exist ? If you want some evidence read this forum. How have you Blasted meldrew out the water ? Your asking for all alien believers to say hello on a particular time and place. No matter how hard you try to explain it, it is still channeling.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 2:06:04 GMT 1
Hello All,
The last time I posted info WRT the source of the notice the thread got locked. The reason was that I was suspected of trying to steal members over to my home Forum. Along with using the Forum to promote a cause. And who knows what else, accusations of being a faker,, a spammer, a troll, you name it. Oh it's been a real fun time. To be honest I've just about had it with the lot of you. About the only thing that keeps me going these days is that I truly believe this notice to be very important to and for the community. I've come to understand the fact that many have come before me with predictions and obviously other things promised or alluded to, and whatever agenda that have in general angered and frustrated a lot of people. Easy to see why this event is viewed in that same context but it's not the same:
Start of event--- For one minute or less on the same day, at the same time, ask ET. to show themselves--- End of event. One measly little minute and it's over.
I have YET to be that lucky with the Forums. I would like to think people read the thread. They don't. That people don't jump to conclusions. The do anyway. That people who say I've "spammed other Forums would not just do a search and see that yes the OP is elsewhere but actually read some of the questions and answers in those threads. They don't. One can tell because the same questions crop up again. The same comments, the same suspicions. It is getting old and tiresome. But the announcement is the important thing in spite of it all. I've gave my word that I'd see it through and I'm here to keep my word. And to see this through so that an amazing day can have the chance to unfold. The knowledge some will gain of self-empowerment and self determination WRT to the phenom of the UFO enigma is, and will be, worth it.
I need to study for my chess tournament. Any thing that needs a reply will have to please wait until 5/20.
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Post by meldrew on Apr 27, 2011 10:48:23 GMT 1
I've had enough of this utter twaddle you spout hiflier, you odious little individual, piss off and play chess you notright, if I was still on the staff here I would ban you.
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Apr 27, 2011 12:07:36 GMT 1
hiflier Im into PinkFloyd not Charles Arthur Floyd lol.I take it you aint read none of my posts obviously.If you honestly dont believe in Ufo's or Aliens for that matter.Why bother coming on this forum?& criticize others. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by simplyerik on Apr 27, 2011 16:43:54 GMT 1
At this point I think if you guys don't like what your seeing you should bite your tongue (or interlock your fingers lol). Mainly because he is going to continue defending his point, making you more and more angry. As for getting up early, most likely I'll be up at that time anyways so its no skin off my nose.
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Post by meldrew on Apr 28, 2011 12:22:33 GMT 1
At this point I think if you guys don't like what your seeing you should bite your tongue (or interlock your fingers lol). Mainly because he is going to continue defending his point, making you more and more angry. As for getting up early, most likely I'll be up at that time anyways so its no skin off my nose. I think I can talk for us and state we are not angry whatsoever erik,, but why join a ufo reaserch site a state you don't believe in any of it like hiflier states, I enjoy a bit of banter and that is all it is. regards, bantering meldrew.
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Post by uforn on Apr 28, 2011 12:46:44 GMT 1
At this point I think if you guys don't like what your seeing you should bite your tongue (or interlock your fingers lol). Mainly because he is going to continue defending his point, making you more and more angry. As for getting up early, most likely I'll be up at that time anyways so its no skin off my nose. Its not a case of i dont like what im seeing erik, Im not angry at all either, nor was i hostile like he claimed. He's come on a UFO forum and stated theres no such thing as Aliens, he's admitted he knows nothing about UFO's. So where is his evidence and indepth analysis to prove to us that there's no Aliens ? If your gona make claims like that at least have some evidence to suggest otherwise. He needs to go away and do some research like some of us on here before he makes stupid claims. If he asked me for some good information maybe id point him in the right direction, but it seems he's got abit of an attitude because were asking questions which he doesnt answer. He's the one thats angry erik not us
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