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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2011 5:46:16 GMT 1
Hello Aelius, DST is in effect. So GMT is actually 5:27am right now. Please click on the link!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2011 5:51:05 GMT 1
THIRTY MINUTES !
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Post by Aelius on Jul 20, 2011 5:51:32 GMT 1
Your link is wrong. Does not take DST into account and I know someone who actually lives in GMT timezone and they are also telling me that its already past 5 going onto 6am.
Tsk tsk.
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Post by Electra on Jul 20, 2011 5:55:13 GMT 1
Yes that is right, I am in GMT in the UK and the time is now 5.55 am
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2011 6:19:52 GMT 1
Hello Electra,
All the Forums are using the posted link which is GMT Standard, +0:00
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Post by Aelius on Jul 20, 2011 6:22:11 GMT 1
Well, its past now. Where are they?
In before he changes the time.
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Post by uforn on Jul 20, 2011 12:41:42 GMT 1
As I stated at the beggining of this thread that nothing at all would come of this, what are your thoughts now on this none event youve wasted your time on hiflier? I hate to say it but..... I told you so
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Post by ronologic on Jul 20, 2011 17:29:46 GMT 1
I think it was a success in the fact that this brought quite a few people together, even though all knew it would be a bust. I just can't help having the feeling that everyone had the smallest of hopes and wishes that it would have worked out, myself included. "Come together, right now..."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 4:52:29 GMT 1
Hello All,
ET did not show up. This was not a big surprise to most of us. Across the Forums, other than an occasional meteor and a couple of isolated unknowns, the skies were quiet and, other than celestial bodies, virtually empty. But this first step had an extremely important message attached which has been stated many times. That being the fact that a believer, any believer, will begin to realize many things personally, and collectively, as a result of this exercise.
I'm figuring first off that the "Why Are They Here?" question is out for the time being. So does this mean that ET's no-show means nonexistence? That could be a close call for some believers IMHO. Why ET didn't show I feel should take center stage for the time being. There will be conjecture of course but the subject would be indicative of getting the dialogue pared down into a size that one can get their mind around.
Focusing on why Aliens did not display themselves as opposed to they don't exist should garner the best minds in the genre to dig deeper because of the new slant on this enigma. Different doors may open and there may even be room for science. The important thing is to keep going and not let up. Most of you know by now that gathering like minds together to take action is something that has already be done and is part of your UFO history now. It's something to build on not to rest on.
1) The invasion, enslavement, destruction, and many more of the concerns and fears of ET within the UFO community did NOT happen. And "Be careful what you wish for" no longer applies. It never did apply actually but did serve as a barometer in registering how high the level of fear was for some of the community. A phrase like that can also generate fear where there once was none.
2) Anyone who was fearful WRT ET before the Event can now rest in the fact that an unknown, while eliciting a natural apprehension, need not stall anyone's efforts in pursuing a goal. Projecting a future outcome without facts is normal but to have a "what if" rule one's life and decisions in making progress, based on imagination driven by fear, makes little sense and left unchecked can freeze an individual into doing nothing. The Forum memberships demonstrate this rather obviously.
It cannot be allowed to control a strive for Truth and the manipulation of that fear by others should never be tolerated and, in fact, such ancient and archaic practices should be rooted out and exposed in order that a community can free itself to get active in order to acquire good solid knowledge to use for future endeavors.
3) Taking action as an individual WORKS and don't ever allow anyone to tell you different! If someone shows up that has a sensible, and most importantly logical and harmless, approach in pursuit of a truth most are aligned with then at least hear the idea out before criticism. I hope my efforts have helped in this area.
4) Victory over fear to me would be the ultimate goal in this project and is a good healthy, basic reason to continue to in getting the real ET or no ET answer. It's OK to refuse to take "no" for an answer. From ANY SOURCE. Be persistent and have a good logical, down-to-Earth argument as to why someone should provide that answer.
To address whether or not 7/20 was a success? I say from the courage I noted across the Forums, and the last minute responses even from members I had never seen during the previous five months, as well as the many,many familiar ones, that this project, for what it was, was a tremendous sucess. No ET but a LOT of Humans joining and being interested and actually getting involved and actively participating at all hours of the day and night! How amazing is that? And from Forums no less- who knew? YOU do now and I will say what I've always thought from the beginning....The day was huge!
I cannot express in words what all of you have meant to this undertaking and to me. My tin hat is off to all of you and occasionally I will be stopping in with a post now and then. In the meantime you people have the ball and, from what I've truly seen, the will, and now the mechanism, to accomplish great things in arriving at the Truth of this strange and long-lasting mystery. I'll be around for the remainder of this week to take any medicine anyone wishes to dish out and then take a respite from a constant nearly half-year project that is now over.
I respectfully and sincerely give all of you the best in any future endeavors and may your answers come to you quickly and with undeniability!
Regards, hiflier.
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Post by Aelius on Jul 21, 2011 8:22:16 GMT 1
Sounds like you're blaming them because they did not listen to you. What voice do you carry for them to twitch at in the first place?
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Post by uforn on Jul 21, 2011 15:41:29 GMT 1
I respectfully and sincerely give all of you the best in any future endeavors and may your answers come to you quickly and with undeniability! Our answers were never going to come from this!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 2:56:35 GMT 1
Hello uforn,
No, they were not. And while the believer and author, onlychild, thought it important to try the "asking" approach, my own push was to reduce the fear level. A no-show to me would be to that end and so I was more than willing to stick to the completion of the campaign with that as my banner.
Of course, there is some ridicule out there but that is par for the course and somewhat expected. I will not run away from it and, indeed, feel it would be counter-productive for me to do so. After all, this was not a cheap hit n' run like what I've seen so much of on the larger Forums. I had called it "straffing". You know, blow in, take a nasty poke at some OP and disappear. Sucky tactic.
I will be around here because I do like the thinking on this Forum and there is much to learn. In fact on that note here's one for you, uforn. Ever heard of "Agenda 21"? It is DEFINITELY a topic for a new thread. I mean, Talk about NWO? This is the real deal!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 3:15:45 GMT 1
Hello Aelius, Sounds like you're blaming them because they did not listen to you. What voice do you carry for them to twitch at in the first place? Now, what would make you think "they" would listen to a non-believer? "They" didn't show because "they" are not there.
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Post by boodykaka on Jul 22, 2011 6:21:18 GMT 1
LOL as i used to say to my ex girlfriend "Things went from bad to worse, but i am hopeful now that things are going badly again"
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Post by uforn on Jul 22, 2011 14:48:56 GMT 1
Hello uforn, No, they were not. And while the believer and author, onlychild, thought it important to try the "asking" approach, my own push was to reduce the fear level. A no-show to me would be to that end and so I was more than willing to stick to the completion of the campaign with that as my banner. Of course, there is some ridicule out there but that is par for the course and somewhat expected. I will not run away from it and, indeed, feel it would be counter-productive for me to do so. After all, this was not a cheap hit n' run like what I've seen so much of on the larger Forums. I had called it "straffing". You know, blow in, take a nasty poke at some OP and disappear. Sucky tactic. I will be around here because I do like the thinking on this Forum and there is much to learn. In fact on that note here's one for you, uforn. Ever heard of "Agenda 21"? It is DEFINITELY a topic for a new thread. I mean, Talk about NWO? This is the real deal! Glad youll be sticking around as ive said to you before its good to have you here ;D Weve all got so much to learn there is too much information out there for anyone person to know it all, it takes the minds of everyone to put all the pieces together to try and find the answers. Dont think ive come accross Agenda 21 by all means start a thread on it and ill take a look
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2011 2:05:12 GMT 1
Hello All,
I don't see any issues with the "Say Hello to ET" project. The subject ET has been reduced to two approaches:
1) ET does not exist. In which everyone can quit and go home! And
2) If ET does exist then WHY did they not show up?.
If one is a believer in ET then the only debate left is "WHY the no-show".
Onlychild's idea did exactly what it was supposed to do. And knowing this would be the outcome was why I, even as a non-believer, saw the logical benefit of the project to the ET-believing community. I mean, if ET exists and DID show then a whole separate dynamic and set of questions would come into play which are now useless. So if you believe in ET you now have one (and only one!) question left: Why the no-show?
If anyone has done any serious research into the subject of ET this will put a spin on your information that one did not have before. This is why I consider the project a success. The result is the simplification of the enigma. Non existence vs. a reason for not showing. All other subjects and discussions no longer apply. If anyone truly gives this some honest thought then this conclusion will be obvious and the value of "onlychild's" project will be realized.
Consider this to be my last and final contribution to the "Say Hello to ET" project.
Regards, hiflier. Over....and out.
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Jul 25, 2011 0:18:30 GMT 1
hiflier: 1)Maybe ET's are like Tooth Fairys. They only show up.For good little Boys lol. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 11:25:56 GMT 1
Hello prettyboyfloyd, Who's to say you are not absolutely correct! But if what you say was to be listed by category I would have to place it under the "Why they didn't show" debate. To me anyway, if one still believes in ET that is the only category left now to discuss. I'm not trying to act the "smartie" here but the ET project has in fact brought the dialogue to this point WRT believers.
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Post by Aelius on Nov 17, 2012 10:34:55 GMT 1
I come back and you're a moderator...
Alrighty, then.
/leaves.
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