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Post by meldrew on Jul 19, 2012 17:41:17 GMT 1
Oxford scientist suggests alien encounter will occur this centuryJason McClellan | Jul 17, 2012 A leading UK astrophysicist asserts that intelligent extraterrestrials might be discovered this century. While speaking at the Euroscience Open Forum conference in Dublin, Ireland, Jocelyn Bell Burnell announced, “I do suspect we are going to get signs of life elsewhere, maybe even intelligent life, within the next century.” The Daily Mail jokes that this is “a scientific prediction that will get dollar signs pinging in Steven Spielberg’s eyes.” But Burnell, a professor and astrophysicist at the University of Oxford, proposes that governments, rather than Hollywood filmmakers, should prepare for contact. She poses questions for governments to consider, such as, “How well prepared are we? Have we thought of how we approach them? Should we put them in a zoo, eat them, send in GIs to bring them democracy?” According to the Daily Mail, Burnell believes “we are most likely to find alien life where we find rocky planets with carbon dioxide and ozone in the atmospheres.” But as the Times of India points out, “Even if we do find signs of alien life, it is likely to take decades to talk to them from Earth through radio or lasers.” Burnell commented on this point, stating, “Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. So you are probably talking of conversations that could take 50 or 100 years, just one way.” In conjunction with this story, the Daily Mail referenced a poll conducted by the Royal Society that determined forty-four percent of Britons believe extraterrestrial life exists, and more than a third feel we should be actively searching and trying to make contact with extraterrestrials. www.openminds.tv/oxford-scientist-suggests-alien-encounter-will-occur-this-century-801/
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Post by meldrew on Jul 19, 2012 19:04:25 GMT 1
I notice the slight negative spin on the distances of stars and times involved, at light speed 186,000 miles per second, (670 million mph) the journey to our nearest star, Alpha Centauri, would take 4 years it would take even longer than that because of the time it would take to reach light speed - accelerating at a rate that would produce 2G's force it would take six months, and of course another six months to slow down. if you travelled at half the speed of light it would take 8 years or more not the 50-100 years quoted above, but its good to see an Oxford professor coming out and saying this kind of thing, she could be seriously harming her career and reputation, I wonder if any of her colleagues will back her up ?
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Post by uforn on Jul 20, 2012 15:23:58 GMT 1
I notice the slight negative spin on the distances of stars and times involved, at light speed 186,000 miles per second, (670 million mph) the journey to our nearest star, Alpha Centauri, would take 4 years it would take even longer than that because of the time it would take to reach light speed - accelerating at a rate that would produce 2G's force it would take six months, and of course another six months to slow down. if you travelled at half the speed of light it would take 8 years or more not the 50-100 years quoted above, but its good to see an Oxford professor coming out and saying this kind of thing, she could be seriously harming her career and reputation, I wonder if any of her colleagues will back her up ? Thats statistics for our closest star Alpha Centuri. If they discovered a planet some 50 light years away then the 50 - 100yrs timeline would fit.
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Post by meldrew on Jul 20, 2012 17:15:13 GMT 1
I notice the slight negative spin on the distances of stars and times involved, at light speed 186,000 miles per second, (670 million mph) the journey to our nearest star, Alpha Centauri, would take 4 years it would take even longer than that because of the time it would take to reach light speed - accelerating at a rate that would produce 2G's force it would take six months, and of course another six months to slow down. if you travelled at half the speed of light it would take 8 years or more not the 50-100 years quoted above, but its good to see an Oxford professor coming out and saying this kind of thing, she could be seriously harming her career and reputation, I wonder if any of her colleagues will back her up ? Thats statistics for our closest star Alpha Centuri. If they discovered a planet some 50 light years away then the 50 - 100yrs timeline would fit. yes it would fit, but we know that, more than a few people don't know the speeds and distances involved and taking the above article at face value would have them thinking it will take 50-100 years to commence a conversation with ET, when infact it could take 4-5 years which the article fails to state, infact if one of the moons of saturn had intelligent life it would take a lot less than that, anyways if they are here already it makes this thread a load of tosh ;D
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Post by uforn on Jul 20, 2012 17:27:41 GMT 1
Thats statistics for our closest star Alpha Centuri. If they discovered a planet some 50 light years away then the 50 - 100yrs timeline would fit. yes it would fit, but we know that, more than a few people don't know the speeds and distances involved and taking the above article at face value would have them thinking it will take 50-100 years to commence a conversation with ET, when infact it could take 4-5 years which the article fails to state, infact if one of the moons of saturn had intelligent life it would take a lot less than that, anyways if they are here already it makes this thread a load of tosh ;D True, however I very much doubt there is inteligent life on one of Saturns moons, but there may well be microbial life on Titan, it has an atmosphere, lakes of liquid methane and a weather system, some Scientists say it has Volcanos of liquid water. Life could exist there in ways Science doesnt yet understand.
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Post by meldrew on Jul 20, 2012 17:41:04 GMT 1
although the reality is that ET would likely be travelling vast distances to reach here so they would have to travel at faster than light speed, which would then mean old man Einstein was wrong with his E=MC2 theory.
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Post by uforn on Jul 20, 2012 18:14:25 GMT 1
although the reality is that ET would likely be travelling vast distances to reach here so they would have to travel at faster than light speed, which would then mean old man Einstein was wrong with his E=MC2 theory. Einstein "was" proved wrong on his theory of special relativity mate. Scientists have already broken the light speed barrier. See this link: www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8783011/Speed-of-light-broken-by-scientists.html
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Post by meldrew on Jul 20, 2012 18:53:59 GMT 1
I remember the article, but its not proven yet,
I think the results turned out to be flawed (I could be wrong), a few scientists have said Einstein was wrong but I don't think he has actually been proved wrong.
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Post by uforn on Jul 20, 2012 19:03:01 GMT 1
I remember the article, but its not proven yet, I think the results turned out to be flawed (I could be wrong), a few scientists have said Einstein was wrong but I don't think he has actually been proved wrong. Im sure it has (I could be wrong) but lets not forget "string theory" which contradicts Einsteins views, and many Scientists are now coming to accept.
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Post by meldrew on Jul 20, 2012 20:23:30 GMT 1
I remember the article, but its not proven yet, I think the results turned out to be flawed (I could be wrong), a few scientists have said Einstein was wrong but I don't think he has actually been proved wrong. Im sure it has (I could be wrong) but lets not forget "string theory" which contradicts Einsteins views, and many Scientists are now coming to accept. I can't debate string theory, I'm not an Egg Head ;D
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Post by uforn on Jul 20, 2012 20:59:09 GMT 1
Im sure it has (I could be wrong) but lets not forget "string theory" which contradicts Einsteins views, and many Scientists are now coming to accept. I can't debate string theory, I'm not an Egg Head ;D LOL here's an interesting thought, if an object could travel faster than the speed of light towards you, it would reach you before you would be able to see it.
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Post by meldrew on Jul 22, 2012 10:28:21 GMT 1
Heres a question I once asked on a science thread. If a naked man, in the vacuum of space ( he has taken a pill to enable him to survive) lets rip a huge fart, how far would he be propelled and what speed would he reach. there was no reply ;D if you think about it, a biological space entity would more than likely propel itself by fart power lol
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Post by uforn on Jul 22, 2012 15:32:17 GMT 1
An interesting thought that meldrew and one I cant answer, you could try asking someone like Michio Kaku Im sure he would be able to give you an answer.
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Post by meldrew on Jul 23, 2012 16:07:24 GMT 1
An interesting thought that meldrew and one I cant answer, you could try asking someone like Michio Kaku Im sure he would be able to give you an answer. Michio Kaku can be contacted here: mediarequests@mkaku.org Heres another interesting thought, not my musing but another Oxford scientist. WHAT if there was an entire universe that existed before the Big Bang? This is the theory of a leading Oxford University scientist who claims to have evidence of stars and galaxies that existed long before the universe as we know it formed, The Daily Mail reported. Professor Roger Penrose says that cosmic radiation discovered by one of NASA's telescopes is older than the Big Bang. The researcher shows that the cosmic radiation background (CMB) formed in concentric circles that had cooled to a temperature of -270C over the 14 billion years since the universe came into being. Prof Penrose and his colleague Professor Vahe Gurzadyan of the Yerevan State University in Armenia claim to have 12 examples of the circles, some of which have five rings - meaning that the objects had five massive events in their history. The rings appear around clusters of galaxy where the background radiation is incredibly low. The scientists believe the circles are imprints of violent gravitational forces generated by black holes that existed long before the Big Bang. The research casts doubt upon the widely-held theory that the universe has continued to expand since the Big Bang and will continue to do so until it ceases to exist. Prof Penrose says that his research shows that all matter in the universe will eventually be consumed by black holes, leaving only energy behind which will in turn trigger the next Big Bang. "In the scheme that I'm proposing, you have an exponential expansion but it's not in our aeon - I use the term to describe [the period] from our Big Bang until the remote future," Prof Penrose told the BBC. "I claim that this aeon is one of a succession of such things, where the remote future of the previous aeons somehow becomes the Big Bang of our aeon." www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/big-bang-theory-a-bust-scientist-claims-theres-something-out-there/story-fn5fsgyc-1226393063285makes perfect sense
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Post by belle on Jul 27, 2012 5:14:49 GMT 1
Heres a question I once asked on a science thread. If a naked man, in the vacuum of space ( he has taken a pill to enable him to survive) lets rip a huge fart, how far would he be propelled and what speed would he reach. there was no reply ;D if you think about it, a biological space entity would more than likely propel itself by fart power lol Farts, LOL what a man question!
Well Sir I could be very wrong but here is my answer LOL. force of fart air x's psi would give you distance divided by time to give you speed.
;D Of course it would have to be done each time. Eat a few beans and your force will be greater!
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Post by meldrew on Jul 27, 2012 18:47:42 GMT 1
Heres a question I once asked on a science thread. If a naked man, in the vacuum of space ( he has taken a pill to enable him to survive) lets rip a huge fart, how far would he be propelled and what speed would he reach. there was no reply ;D if you think about it, a biological space entity would more than likely propel itself by fart power lol Farts, LOL what a man question!
Well Sir I could be very wrong but here is my answer LOL. force of fart air x's psi would give you distance divided by time to give you speed.
;D Of course it would have to be done each time. Eat a few beans and your force will be greater!
I like your thinking belle, or it could be FFxP=C fart force x power=speed ;D another fart related tale, I attended a UFO conference 3 days after christmas and the as the researcher Peter Robbins went to say his opening words someone let off a huge fart lol and the general stench of christmas farts in the hall was over whelming at times ;D
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Post by belle on Jul 28, 2012 1:17:19 GMT 1
Farts, LOL what a man question!
Well Sir I could be very wrong but here is my answer LOL. force of fart air x's psi would give you distance divided by time to give you speed.
;D Of course it would have to be done each time. Eat a few beans and your force will be greater!
I like your thinking belle, or it could be FFxP=C fart force x power=speed ;D another fart related tale, I attended a UFO conference 3 days after christmas and the as the researcher Peter Robbins went to say his opening words someone let off a huge fart lol and the general stench of christmas farts in the hall was over whelming at times ;D Lordy, I'd be all over the floor laughing like a retarded seal. (Where you laugh so hard you only make noises and clap your hands at the same time.)
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