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Post by meldrew on Aug 20, 2012 20:03:47 GMT 1
Thread for on topic discussion, thoughts or questions.
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Post by meldrew on Aug 20, 2012 20:24:14 GMT 1
I see the Livingston (Scotland) case has been solved.
I may be wrong here, but does anyone have any interest in SETI, take a look at the amount of views the threads with SETI in the title get. what subject is getting the most views ?
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Post by meldrew on Aug 21, 2012 20:42:45 GMT 1
And todays on topic waffle is, How come judge has so many karma points ;D
I see the Iconoclasts are lambasting Lonnie Zamora and the Socorro case again, with all the work being done by their Friend ( embarrassing gushing butt kissing friend) the Spanish UFO researcher Jose Antonio Caravaca, last year I fired off an e.mail to the RRR group aka the iconoclasts informing them that Caravaca had got it wrong and was using his tabloid journalist training to make his case, he used photo's from a different case to make it look bad, I could dig up some stuff on it if pressed but it really is just waffle, I never did hear back from the RRR group.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 4:36:35 GMT 1
Hello meldrew,
I don't know a whole lot about it myself. But I do know this.........I love it when you talk like that. All kidding aside (for now) would you link some reading so I can catch up a bit?
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 8:57:16 GMT 1
Hello meldrew, I don't know a whole lot about it myself. But I do know this.........I love it when you talk like that. All kidding aside (for now) would you link some reading so I can catch up a bit? the Socorro case can be read here uforesearchnetwork.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=casefiles&action=display&thread=107the Socorro case is interesting as the UFO had insignia similar to the Bentwaters case and the Herb Schirmer case, now Caravaca presented a case titled A UFO with "ASTRONAUTS" using “STUN RAYS” by Jose Antonio Caravaca he used images from the other cases to present the stun rays case, I was interested in the insignia that might link these cases and had already done some research on them when Caravaca popped up and tried to con people with his stun rays case, this was put on the iconoclasts site last year, the iconoclasts site ufocon.blogspot.co.uk/ hiflier if you can follow that then your a better man than me ;D
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 16:05:52 GMT 1
Todays on topic waffle is
A known "contactee" claimed a while ago that all the UFOs around where he lives (USA) are definitely cloaked, I asked him "how do you know that then if you can't see or hear them, again no reply ;D
there is another UFO gig planned to take place just up the road from me, and I mean just up the road about a 10 min walk, this is being put together by the same person who has put the all of the Bentwaters conventions together, this one hiflier you will like. a while ago I let it be known that I thought the Bentwaters subject was being milked by those involved, that they were only interested in a free holiday, I put it to the man who organises these gigs that he was taking advantage after the price went from £6 a ticket to £40, I was accused of slander to which I replied "if that is the case, then feel free to post all the accounts for clarity" what a surprise there was no reply, this next gig isn't about Bentwaters, its about the unexplained ? and includes a buffet, price about £15 a ticket.
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Post by uforn on Aug 22, 2012 16:12:41 GMT 1
And todays on topic waffle is, How come judge has so many karma points ;D I see the Iconoclasts are lambasting Lonnie Zamora and the Socorro case again, with all the work being done by their Friend ( embarrassing gushing butt kissing friend) the Spanish UFO researcher Jose Antonio Caravaca, last year I fired off an e.mail to the RRR group aka the iconoclasts informing them that Caravaca had got it wrong and was using his tabloid journalist training to make his case, he used photo's from a different case to make it look bad, I could dig up some stuff on it if pressed but it really is just waffle, I never did hear back from the RRR group. Karma points ~? Ive only got 8,388,607
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 16:40:17 GMT 1
And todays on topic waffle is, How come judge has so many karma points ;D I see the Iconoclasts are lambasting Lonnie Zamora and the Socorro case again, with all the work being done by their Friend ( embarrassing gushing butt kissing friend) the Spanish UFO researcher Jose Antonio Caravaca, last year I fired off an e.mail to the RRR group aka the iconoclasts informing them that Caravaca had got it wrong and was using his tabloid journalist training to make his case, he used photo's from a different case to make it look bad, I could dig up some stuff on it if pressed but it really is just waffle, I never did hear back from the RRR group. Karma points ~? Ive only got 8,388,607 lol thats a nuclear amount ;D
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Post by uforn on Aug 22, 2012 16:59:03 GMT 1
Karma points ~? Ive only got 8,388,607 lol thats a nuclear amount ;D LOL would you prefer it if I had none mate ? ( I see the Karma points feature as useless on here as no-one uses it) Back to the Zamora case, have you got a link to what you were talking about so I can take a peek ?
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 17:15:53 GMT 1
lol thats a nuclear amount ;D LOL would you prefer it if I had none mate ? ( I see the Karma points feature as useless on here as no-one uses it) Back to the Zamora case, have you got a link to what you were talking about so I can take a peek ? its a bit hickeldy pickeldy, to be honest, I am running out of ammo here so the last arrow is this,http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187594&highlight=socorro this might help, otherwise I would have to put a thread together to sort it out,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 17:21:31 GMT 1
Hello meldrew,
WRT the Bentwaters guy? You are a fearless one! It's why I like having you aboard. I wish everyone was so "active". The person is definitely a hoser! Upping the price 650% says something. Maybe he was counting on 200x6 the last time around and didn't get it. Now he only needs 30! HOSER! You know me, I have problems with conferences, symposiums or what ever one calls them. It's getting so the average joe can't afford to go even if they wanted to. But you know? That's alright because most know by now that there are no answers to be had at them. MUFON- 43 years, every year and counting. BTW, thanks for the links. Uforn, your karma is off the charts but well deserved IMO. Print some for meldrew will ya?
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Post by uforn on Aug 22, 2012 17:26:30 GMT 1
LOL would you prefer it if I had none mate ? ( I see the Karma points feature as useless on here as no-one uses it) Back to the Zamora case, have you got a link to what you were talking about so I can take a peek ? its a bit hickeldy pickeldy, to be honest, I am running out of ammo here so the last arrow is this,http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187594&highlight=socorro this might help, otherwise I would have to put a thread together to sort it out, Ill wait for the thread mate as Id like to see what your thoughts are How are you running out of ammo, this isnt a test mate ? Im curious as to whats been said about this case as Ive missed anything that has been posted
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 17:33:54 GMT 1
Hello meldrew, WRT the Bentwaters guy? You are a fearless one! It's why I like having you aboard. I wish everyone was so "active". The person is definitely a hoser! Upping the price 650% says something. Maybe he was counting on 200x6 the last time around and didn't get it. Now he only needs 30! HOSER! You know me, I have problems with conferences, symposiums or what ever one calls them. It's getting so the average joe can't afford to go even if they wanted to. But you know? That's alright because most know by now that there are no answers to be had at them. MUFON- 43 years, every year and counting. BTW, thanks for the links. Uforn, your karma is off the charts but well deserved IMO. Print some for meldrew will ya? there is more to it hiflier, the £6 a ticket gig was seriously subsidised by the History Channel, but they still donated about £3000 to a local hospice, my moan is "if i want to give to charity I will, my preferred charity at my own will, and in the UK if you give a bit to charity then the thing is tax exempt, so no tax paid and free holidays ? and they fed us a load of rubbish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 17:42:33 GMT 1
Wonderful. Root word: Wonder.
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 17:45:57 GMT 1
its a bit hickeldy pickeldy, to be honest, I am running out of ammo here so the last arrow is this,http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187594&highlight=socorro this might help, otherwise I would have to put a thread together to sort it out, Ill wait for the thread mate as Id like to see what your thoughts are How are you running out of ammo, this isnt a test mate ? Im curious as to whats been said about this case as Ive missed anything that has been posted I ran out of ammo due to lack of support, it seemed people were more interested in if there was life in the sun, so I gave up , read the thread I posted at dif last year, I'm sure we could do a job on it, I know where I went wrong, I was doing it on my own. looks like a thread then in my private chambers lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 17:59:51 GMT 1
Hello meldrew,
Mr. meldrew at the ready. Sounds like it'll be a good one too. BTW, do you have a link to the symbols Zamora saw?
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Post by uforn on Aug 22, 2012 18:07:43 GMT 1
Uforn, your karma is off the charts but well deserved IMO. Print some for meldrew will ya? You think ? print some for meldrew, hmmm. I could print millions for him, but that wouldnt tell anyone anything, would it? No, I think the Karma points are useless mate and Im going to remove the feature unless I get any objection's ? It is all of us combined that sorts out the wheat from the chaff (so to speak). We all need to take credit for what we bring to the table. None of us are any better than the other, and each other's research can go a very long way in getting to the truth. We just need to get facts right and not let our imaginations get ahead of us
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 18:26:54 GMT 1
Hello meldrew, Mr. meldrew at the ready. Sounds like it'll be a good one too. BTW, do you have a link to the symbols Zamora saw? the insignia is what this is all about, and there is a thread about insignia but I can't find it, we can build a case and put it to caravaca and the RRR group anyway, judge wheres the insignia thread. question is do you want to make these people mentioned previously look like burks ?
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 18:50:59 GMT 1
A point I must make a lot of people including researchers, do not want to see evidence that basically debunks the case they are looking at, so they ignore it totally and carry on regardless, putting out NOT the whole truth but what they want to believe, these researchers give ufology a bad name, and they try and make money out of it, I have never earnt a penny out of the years I've been involved, but one thing is true, I have never lied or tried to cover up anything, except once when I knew something and kept quiet, I will not do that ever again, what was it I knew ? lol wouldn't you like to know ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 19:02:16 GMT 1
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 19:17:26 GMT 1
yep thats the thread, now we have to join the dots, if you notice I say words like flimsy, trying to make a case. at least I didn't do what Caravaca did and made up a load of tosh by putting images from insignia cases in one case to big himself up and probably sell a book. I agree scrap the karma thing, I only used it once.
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 20:24:31 GMT 1
Another point but just a thought
What if the higher echelons of UFO researchers reach a point where they are told by persons from the security services to play the game, I believe that is the case, basically once you know too much they get you on side, perhaps buy you a cottage in the countryside and tell you to shut up, it seems that way, this subject has not ended but researchers tend to stop researching, why would they stop researching a subject that is no way being solved ?
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 20:42:27 GMT 1
Now this is funny
Are these strange dots UFOs hovering in the distance checking out our humble little rover? Or are they simply dead pixels? One main factor indicates to us that we're looking at dead pixels: if they were alien craft, do you really think the powers-that-be are going to let us see that? Unless Mars is being overrun by tiny pixel sized aliens, we vote no. Earthlings Look for Signs in New Photos of Mars other than UFOs too. This particular group of Mars gazers headed up by George Haas have already found tons of "art" on the surface of Mars, from the image of a baby elephant to a Mickey Mouse head with just about everything else in between making an appearance on the surface of Mars as well. The new Curiosity photos have the group scrambling to find even more.
Mars gazers, lol, do people really sit there looking for a something/anything, it makes you wonder ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 22:37:45 GMT 1
Hello meldrew, Another point but just a thought What if the higher echelons of UFO researchers reach a point where they are told by persons from the security services to play the game, I believe that is the case, basically once you know too much they get you on side, perhaps buy you a cottage in the countryside and tell you to shut up, it seems that way, this subject has not ended but researchers tend to stop researching, why would they stop researching a subject that is no way being solved ? That certainly has been my take on it even if the whole shebang is military. In retrospect, especially if it's military. Who knows, my Blak Triangle research may just net me a nice place on a lake somewhere.
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Post by meldrew on Aug 22, 2012 22:50:31 GMT 1
Hello meldrew, Another point but just a thought What if the higher echelons of UFO researchers reach a point where they are told by persons from the security services to play the game, I believe that is the case, basically once you know too much they get you on side, perhaps buy you a cottage in the countryside and tell you to shut up, it seems that way, this subject has not ended but researchers tend to stop researching, why would they stop researching a subject that is no way being solved ? That certainly has been my take on it even if the whole shebang is military. In retrospect, especially if it's military. Who knows, my Blak Triangle research may just net me a nice place on a lake somewhere. I think all black triangles are military, I said this ages ago to judge and he very quickly came back at me about the Phoenix Lights, I think that case needs looking at.
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Post by meldrew on Aug 23, 2012 13:42:56 GMT 1
Dr Roger Leir
anyone heard of him ? poor Dr Leir has a terrible bad case of shingles, coupled with diabetes, this has caused him to beg for money to pay his medical bills, the UFO community are rallying around. if you don't know who he is, then I shall tell you, he is a surgeon who operated on abductees to remove alien implants, now he is skint, I have not heard of a surgeon going skint and begging for money before, I saw a docu about him removing an implant from an abductee, it was sent to a lab in Canada for analysis and it turned out to be a splinter from a hammer lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2012 2:48:18 GMT 1
Hello,
I sincerely believe the research I'm currently involved in to be of some fairly significant importance to the UFO community. I've found the need to narrow fields down to a certain level of accuracy in order to BE accurate in my presentations further down the road. I will be more specific. One organization that I won't name, but it's initials are MUFON, Has been less than co-operative. I've been in correspondence with them ("HQ") via email.
EXAMPLE (paraphrased):
h: I'm doing a research project but your database has no towns or cities listed like it used to have......
HQ: That's because some of the witnesses were complaining of being bothered.....
h: Okay I understand but 13 states have daul time zones and it will have an impact on the studies accuracy. I will comply with any info you need from me to verify who I'm am...
HQ: The best we can do are "counties"......
I looked at their web page "UFO STALKER" and guess what? The last 20 current sightings did in fact list TOWN or CITY as well as the state. Some listed CITY and state. If one knows the case number even from as far back as 2004 ALL the data is there. This means one has to individually go through all 800+ reports just to get an accurate geographic location!
h: Would you please clarify why the data is available on "UFO STALKER" or when one searches individual reports by case number but not available when accessing your database. And thank you for treating me as if I was a (and I quote) "moronic busybody".
I went on to tell them they were handling the matter unprofessionally and that I didn't deserve the treatment. I also told them their excuses were argued illogically as the data they are sequestering is made availlable every day on "UFO Stalker". I also said I was ending any further correspondence on the matter.
Utter WAFFLE!!!!! What is their problem? I'm only researching a database they have made public looking for data that is given elsewhere freely. I don't get it.
IDK....maybe this should've gone to the Rant Room Board.....
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Post by meldrew on Aug 25, 2012 23:26:45 GMT 1
heres one for the egg heads, its Einstein. www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/files/90344/Time%20ordering.pngSpecial Relativity And The Curious Physics of Chronology Einstein showed that two unrelated events can appear in any order depending on your point of view. Now physicists have discovered the chronologies of three events, and more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 3:37:27 GMT 1
Hello meldrew,
WRT Einstein's statement: Anyone residing anywhere in a plane that perpendicularly intersects the line between event "A" and event "B" will always see the two events as occurring simultaneously.
Modified: because I'm wrong. Soooo wrong!
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Post by meldrew on Aug 27, 2012 14:36:30 GMT 1
the link I posted about Einstein, the post has been erased leaving just a diagram, I was going to evaluate the post but now its gone, that gets my goat that does, in future C&P anything like that so we can at least have something to refer to, was it erased because it was B/S I wonder ?
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