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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Sept 11, 2012 23:37:35 GMT 1
Thought I would edit this today since it is the 11th anniversary of 9/11. I added some video filters to try to make the orbs stick out a little better. Hope you all like it.
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Post by uforn on Sept 12, 2012 14:44:18 GMT 1
I dont see anything in the video
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Sept 22, 2012 4:52:26 GMT 1
Damn, did you guys add this to your front page? I just got like 700 video views in the past 24 hours! This is the only board I pasted it on too!
Thanks!
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Post by uforn on Sept 23, 2012 15:38:16 GMT 1
No why would I promote this video when there is nothing in it? I get it now you are just here to get hits on your video's arnt you because you cant get anyone to view them as they are utter rubbish, so you thought you could just post them here to get hits. I heard this was the place to get traffic for new ufo / orb / supernatural videos. I spend a lot of time outside with my nightvision camera, but can't get any traffic to my videos. Hope you all can help! Explain yourself ?
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Post by uforn on Sept 23, 2012 17:14:03 GMT 1
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Sept 23, 2012 23:16:30 GMT 1
Man you sure do talk a lot of shit. It's people like me that spend all night videotaping orbs and "UFOs" to provide sites like yours with content for you to put advertisements next to and profit.
Yeah I want traffic to my site, so what? If I knew my videos I posted here were going to get 4 negative ratings from people that won't even watch them, I probably would have never posted to this forum.
Keep talking shit to your content providers, see where that gets you.
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Post by uforn on Sept 24, 2012 15:10:59 GMT 1
Man you sure do talk a lot of shit. It's people like me that spend all night videotaping orbs and "UFOs" to provide sites like yours with content for you to put advertisements next to and profit. Yeah I want traffic to my site, so what? If I knew my videos I posted here were going to get 4 negative ratings from people that won't even watch them, I probably would have never posted to this forum. Keep talking shit to your content providers, see where that gets you. I talk alot of shit? keep talking with that kind of attitude on here see where that gets you. UFOs / ghosts / orbs are just fallen angels (or nephilim spirits), they are just balls of light that can manifest from the infrared to the visible light spectrum. Some are tiny and fly as a swarm of fish, others are miles wide. Its obvious here your the one talking shit!
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Post by meldrew on Sept 24, 2012 15:28:53 GMT 1
I watched the whole video, and it is absolute rubbish, (in my opinion) as I said earlier to you there is another site that will fit your beliefs and videos. www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=19there is a sticky thread there especially for videos of orbs, where others who believe in them can watch the videos and tell you how good they are and well done to you for capturing the orbs on video, although some may say the orbs are fairys instead of demons. so stop being rude on here and post your stuff where it belongs.
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Post by bazmatic on Sept 24, 2012 17:23:16 GMT 1
Well said
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Sept 28, 2012 6:24:45 GMT 1
UFOs / ghosts / orbs are just fallen angels (or nephilim spirits), they are just balls of light that can manifest from the infrared to the visible light spectrum. Some are tiny and fly as a swarm of fish, others are miles wide. Its obvious here your the one talking shit! Not too sure how that is talking shit, but whatever. You would think that a forum like this one that talks about the supernatural would be a little more open minded as to what others think these things really are. I guess the people here really do have their minds made up, and truly honestly think these UFOs came millions of miles away to rape people, torture cattle, and make pretty pictures in corn fields during play time. Sad. Anyways, I still like the forum, didn't mean to piss off you guys (still not too sure why all the anger). I didn't know you guys were so anti God, so I apologize. I will stop posting anything spiritual here and stick to the high flying orbs I capture. I have a few videos that I think you guys will really like. Hopefully I won't get 4 negative YouTube ratings in one hour after I post them. Take care.
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Post by uforn on Sept 28, 2012 18:11:54 GMT 1
Its obvious here your the one talking shit! Not too sure how that is talking shit, but whatever. You would think that a forum like this one that talks about the supernatural would be a little more open minded as to what others think these things really are. I guess the people here really do have their minds made up, and truly honestly think these UFOs came millions of miles away to rape people, torture cattle, and make pretty pictures in corn fields during play time. Sad. Anyways, I still like the forum, didn't mean to piss off you guys (still not too sure why all the anger). I didn't know you guys were so anti God, so I apologize. I will stop posting anything spiritual here and stick to the high flying orbs I capture. I have a few videos that I think you guys will really like. Hopefully I won't get 4 negative YouTube ratings in one hour after I post them. Take care. I guess you dont know what this forum is all about do you? We are here for serious research into UFO's. You have tryed to push the "all ufos" are spirits or demons to us, you have not provided one shred of evidence to back up these claims. You say we have our minds made up, show us some real evidence then ? This video www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGYZwG256Iw&feature=player_embedded of yours contains HOAXED footage, Did you know that some of the footage you used has been proven to be HOAXED ? And just for your information no one said these UFO's are coming from millions of miles away and no one is claiming to know what they are or where they originate, I dont know where you got that from ? Some of us on here have been researching this phenomena for decades. If you cant take criticism for the video's your posting then your in the wrong place. You also insulted a member of staff (me) this wont be tolerated I suggest you read our rules. Im pleased you like the forum, so as long as your respectfull to staff and other members for that matter, then you wont have a problem here Im Catholic btw
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Oct 6, 2012 9:02:23 GMT 1
You have tryed to push the "all ufos" are spirits or demons to us, you have not provided one shred of evidence to back up these claims. You say we have our minds made up, show us some real evidence then ? Well, I already said I will stop talking about this point of view, but if you insist... I can start a new thread with all my sources. Do I have your permission? I need a time-stamp. If you are talking about the orbs forming a crop circle video clip, I can provide you with my source. I have asked for a source for the supposed faked USAF saucer pictures, only with no response from anyone on any other boards yet. -SB
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Oct 6, 2012 10:33:38 GMT 1
Gday Suspendedbelief11 You have a high warning level of 100% mine is 50% lol. Welcome to the forum. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd
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Post by uforn on Oct 6, 2012 14:09:11 GMT 1
You have tryed to push the "all ufos" are spirits or demons to us, you have not provided one shred of evidence to back up these claims. You say we have our minds made up, show us some real evidence then ? Well, I already said I will stop talking about this point of view, but if you insist... I can start a new thread with all my sources. Do I have your permission? I need a time-stamp. If you are talking about the orbs forming a crop circle video clip, I can provide you with my source. I have asked for a source for the supposed faked USAF saucer pictures, only with no response from anyone on any other boards yet. -SB You can provide your source for the orbs creating the crop circle as that is a HOAX. As for the photo of the the UFO's outside Hanger 18 at Wright field Airforce base that is also a HOAX. Scott Crossfield poses in front of the D-558-2, its B-29 mothership, F-86 chase planes, and support crew
Photoshopped Photo Below is another image relating to this HOAX which you should keep for future reference so that you dont make the same mistake again. Supposed saucer in flight with an F-86 Sabre Actual photo of the D-558-2 Skyrocket in flight with an F-86 Sabre
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Oct 10, 2012 8:50:19 GMT 1
You can provide your source for the orbs creating the crop circle as that is a HOAX. As for the photo of the the UFO's outside Hanger 18 at Wright field Airforce base that is also a HOAX. Well, thanks for pointing that out. I guess I will have to be more careful in my next video compilations. However, the faked pictures still have no relevance on the argument.
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Post by meldrew on Oct 10, 2012 10:01:13 GMT 1
you are using fake material to make your point, which is orbs are demons. Why have you used 9/11 UFOs as a title for your video about the demon orbs, I guess its just to get views like a trash tabloid news paper uses, bad taste if you ask me.
I say your using the UFO subject to push your God bothering views on to others, I believe you are a cyber missionary, you have no interest in the UFO subject, the people who come to this site are trying to find out what is going on in our skies, do they want to be told a load of cobblers by you ? I don't think so.
there is no section here for God related material, the site is for UFO research not preaching your religious views, you have been proven to posting hoax material to make your point, which is against forum policy, you have been rude when your videos were commented on, you have not posted on any of the other threads, only your own god bothering orb videos, which to me makes your agenda quite clear.
my last word on this, if I joined a religious forum and started a thread calling all religion shit then I would expect a very rough ride indeed, before I was banned that is.
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Post by blucottoncandy on Oct 10, 2012 17:42:32 GMT 1
Hello suspendedbelief11... while I have watched your video a few times... while I do see something, I am uncertain as to whether it is something extra-terrestrial…. But it does remain unidentifiable…. With regards to 9/11… there has been some interesting analysis performed… We… meaning the U.S. military and major universities… Stanford… Cal Barkley… amongst others… … have the ability to look at any film… whether it be a plane… a car… or even a person… and from these observational satellites… if we take a look at you walking across your front lawn…we can see a “green shift” across the front of your face… this can tell you if you are walking forward…. backward… we can also learn the temperature of objects around you… the temperature of the top of your head… all this… uses base lines of the time of day… current temp and things like that… these technologies can even get as granular as the type of material you shirt is made out of… there are a ton of things these satellites can do… detect…mass…direction… they can determine how much water vapor is being release from your body….. Now this is where it gets interesting…. If you ask me who my sources are… I am going to lie to you and tell you that I am making this all up… so… don’t believe anything I am about to tell you…. Wink… but observational satellites have analyzed the planes that were to have crashed into the WTC on 9/11… and what is interesting is that these planes lacked temperature and mass…yes… it was an aircraft… it just did not have any temperature or mass and according to spectroscopic analysis… and feel free to learn about spectroscopic analysis… like what was told to me…. I can’t spoon feed you all the information….lol… anyways…. But according to spectroscopic analysis… the plane did not exist… now… I am not saying there was not a plane there... I am just saying that hard science… that one would use to examine any other material indicated that that material had about as much substance of a drop of water… So… if the plane lacked mass and temperature… was it a plane that actually crashed into the WTC… or something else…. I don’t have that answer… but know of others who do…. And remember… this is all a lie… and not to be believed… wink But getting back to your original video… you are not the only one who believes to have seen things… Some interesting pictures can be found here… what do they imply? I don’t know… www.orbwar.com/ufo-photos-wtc-attack-9-11.htm
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Oct 11, 2012 9:03:53 GMT 1
Hello suspendedbelief11... while I have watched your video a few times... while I do see something, I am uncertain as to whether it is something extra-terrestrial�. But it does remain unidentifiable�. With regards to 9/11� there has been some interesting analysis performed� We� meaning the U.S. military and major universities� Stanford� Cal Barkley� amongst others� � have the ability to look at any film� whether it be a plane� a car� or even a person� and from these observational satellites� if we take a look at you walking across your front lawn�we can see a �green shift� across the front of your face� this can tell you if you are walking forward�. backward� we can also learn the temperature of objects around you� the temperature of the top of your head� all this� uses base lines of the time of day� current temp and things like that� these technologies can even get as granular as the type of material you shirt is made out of� there are a ton of things these satellites can do� detect�mass�direction� they can determine how much water vapor is being release from your body�.. Now this is where it gets interesting�. If you ask me who my sources are� I am going to lie to you and tell you that I am making this all up� so� don�t believe anything I am about to tell you�. Wink� but observational satellites have analyzed the planes that were to have crashed into the WTC on 9/11� and what is interesting is that these planes lacked temperature and mass�yes� it was an aircraft� it just did not have any temperature or mass and according to spectroscopic analysis� and feel free to learn about spectroscopic analysis� like what was told to me�. I can�t spoon feed you all the information�.lol� anyways�. But according to spectroscopic analysis� the plane did not exist� now� I am not saying there was not a plane there... I am just saying that hard science� that one would use to examine any other material indicated that that material had about as much substance of a drop of water� So� if the plane lacked mass and temperature� was it a plane that actually crashed into the WTC� or something else�. I don�t have that answer� but know of others who do�. And remember� this is all a lie� and not to be believed� wink But getting back to your original video� you are not the only one who believes to have seen things� Some interesting pictures can be found here� what do they imply? I don�t know� www.orbwar.com/ufo-photos-wtc-attack-9-11.htmI have seen movies like "September Clues" which push the argument that no planes were used, but rather a drone of some sort with digital effect painted over the drone for the TV audience. I have also heard another version of the no-plane theory arguing that they were holographs, but never gave it much thought. Can you provide me with any other information regarding this spectroscopic analysis information you have? How did these researchers get access to this high tech satellite information, and how can you prove that they indeed know there were fake planes? Is it all top secret? There's gotta be some more information you can provide me. I look forward to your response.
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Post by uforn on Oct 11, 2012 15:33:28 GMT 1
However, the faked pictures still have no relevance on the argument. Yes they do as using HOAX material on this forum will not be tolerated. So are you telling me you knew the Images were faked? And did you also know your cropcircle footage was faked ?
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Post by blucottoncandy on Oct 11, 2012 16:00:45 GMT 1
Morning SB…. Mind you… this is not a “ufo centric topic” and maybe this is not the forum to discuss all of this… but since you asked… to fully understand how this all works takes some understanding of quantum physics, parallel universes, Einstein’s theory of relativity, and multiple timelines… Below are two you tube videos…that kind of illustrate how it… in theory… it works…. You just have to replace… the photons with a plane… and replace the double slits with portal... simple right?? lol … And remember…. I am making all of this up… but… if you understand how the experiment works… it all makes sense… the double slit quantum theory experiment shows that the light can be in two places at the same time… translated…. The plane can also be in two places at the same time…. Now… as the light passes through the two slits… two separate time lines are created… meaning… as the light passes through the slot on the right… the time it takes from entering the slot to the screen in one time line 1…. And as the light passes through the left slot…. the time it takes from the point is reaches the left slot to the screen a second parallel time line is also created. So where does the mass go? Imagine a photon as a small marble… it has mass… as photons pass through the slit… it changes into a wave… and loses all it mass… so… as the plane… passes through a slit \ portal… it lost is mass because it was transformed into a wave…. So… what does it all mean?? I can’t say exactly… but I can make up the fact that when the plane past through a portal… the mass of the plane was converted into a wave of light… and the light wave was refracted and redirected… like a laser to hit the WLC… that is the timeline that we are living in…. what happened in the other timeline… I have no idea… but… many believe… in that time line and or parallel universe…. The WTC are still standing and the events of 9/11 never happened… but... our current understanding makes this claims absolutely unverifiable.. To me… the most interesting facet of all of this…. Is…if this is not strange enough is… if you try and measure which slit the matter is going through… as it passes through… it always remains a photon… meaning it never changes…. Because as we watch something…we are interfering with the way it operates… youtu.be/TT-_uCLwKhQyoutu.be/UMqtiFX_IQQso…as for the portals… replacing the slits with portals…obviously I is not as easy as it sounds… but you have to also realize that the technology, currently in our military \ government’s hands is… at a minimum of 20 -40 years ahead of the technology that is made known to most universities and the public. now...getting back to your question about the spectroscopic analysis information that I have... it just confims... that light hit the WTC and not something with mass... but... to make this comment a little more ufo centric... spectroscopicanalysis is currently being used by univeristy and the military to verify UFO's to see if the have mass... temp... and direction... or... if they are in some other multi-dimensional space... blu but...I have also lied on my resume so dont believe anything I am saying becasue I am completely full of shit...
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Oct 13, 2012 5:18:59 GMT 1
However, the faked pictures still have no relevance on the argument. Yes they do as using HOAX material on this forum will not be tolerated. So are you telling me you knew the Images were faked? And did you also know your cropcircle footage was faked ? If the photos were indeed faked, then I would have never included them. As for the "faked" crop circle footage, I included my source already. It comes from the movie, "Crop Circles - Crossover From Another Dimension." I don't know how an old man with a video camera can fake an unstabilized video and show it to his friends minutes later, only to then have the proof substantiated the following morning by aerial photographs of a 100 yard plus crop circle.
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Oct 13, 2012 7:40:16 GMT 1
Morning SB…. Mind you… this is not a “ufo centric topic” and maybe this is not the forum to discuss all of this… but since you asked… to fully understand how this all works takes some understanding of quantum physics, parallel universes, Einstein’s theory of relativity, and multiple timelines… Below are two you tube videos…that kind of illustrate how it… in theory… it works…. You just have to replace… the photons with a plane… and replace the double slits with portal... simple right?? lol … And remember…. I am making all of this up… but… if you understand how the experiment works… it all makes sense… the double slit quantum theory experiment shows that the light can be in two places at the same time… translated…. The plane can also be in two places at the same time…. Now… as the light passes through the two slits… two separate time lines are created… meaning… as the light passes through the slot on the right… the time it takes from entering the slot to the screen in one time line 1…. And as the light passes through the left slot…. the time it takes from the point is reaches the left slot to the screen a second parallel time line is also created. So where does the mass go? Imagine a photon as a small marble… it has mass… as photons pass through the slit… it changes into a wave… and loses all it mass… so… as the plane… passes through a slit \ portal… it lost is mass because it was transformed into a wave…. So… what does it all mean?? I can’t say exactly… but I can make up the fact that when the plane past through a portal… the mass of the plane was converted into a wave of light… and the light wave was refracted and redirected… like a laser to hit the WLC… that is the timeline that we are living in…. what happened in the other timeline… I have no idea… but… many believe… in that time line and or parallel universe…. The WTC are still standing and the events of 9/11 never happened… but... our current understanding makes this claims absolutely unverifiable.. To me… the most interesting facet of all of this…. Is…if this is not strange enough is… if you try and measure which slit the matter is going through… as it passes through… it always remains a photon… meaning it never changes…. Because as we watch something…we are interfering with the way it operates… youtu.be/TT-_uCLwKhQyoutu.be/UMqtiFX_IQQso…as for the portals… replacing the slits with portals…obviously I is not as easy as it sounds… but you have to also realize that the technology, currently in our military \ government’s hands is… at a minimum of 20 -40 years ahead of the technology that is made known to most universities and the public. now...getting back to your question about the spectroscopic analysis information that I have... it just confims... that light hit the WTC and not something with mass... but... to make this comment a little more ufo centric... spectroscopicanalysis is currently being used by univeristy and the military to verify UFO's to see if the have mass... temp... and direction... or... if they are in some other multi-dimensional space... blu but...I have also lied on my resume so dont believe anything I am saying becasue I am completely full of shit... Thanks for the reply. Sounds overly complicated, but I will study your info. From my own personal research, I know that spirits can project images onto walls, for instance. Perhaps they can project 3D holograms too?
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Oct 13, 2012 8:28:18 GMT 1
you are using fake material to make your point, which is orbs are demons. Why have you used 9/11 UFOs as a title for your video about the demon orbs, I guess its just to get views like a trash tabloid news paper uses, bad taste if you ask me. I think I have made it more than clear that I did not suspect that these USAF pics were fakes. I have not researched your claims, so I do not know personally that they are indeed fakes. As for my crop circle footage, my source has been added to this thread already. People term orbs as "UFOs." That's why I title my videos as such. I say your using the UFO subject to push your God bothering views on to others, I believe you are a cyber missionary, you have no interest in the UFO subject, the people who come to this site are trying to find out what is going on in our skies, do they want to be told a load of cobblers by you ? I don't think so. When God took up the form of man on earth, He never "bothered" or insisted that one accept their creator. The UFO subject is what put the final "piece of the puzzle" in it's place for me. Once you understand that God was not lying when He said He bound the devil to the earth, will you only then understand the magnitude of what we are dealing with. You state I have no interest in the subject, what a bunch of "cobbler rubbish." You obviously know nothing about the "UFO" phenomenon. If you did, you would know who J. Allen Hynek is, and what he discovered, which is that the "UFO" phenomenon is of a supernatural, and super deceptive nature. Personally, I believe you are not interested in the truth, but rather want to make your own philosophy "acceptable" by surrounding yourself with like-minded people. That kind of rationale is not relevant to the truth. there is no section here for God related material, the site is for UFO research not preaching your religious views, you have been proven to posting hoax material to make your point, which is against forum policy, you have been rude when your videos were commented on, you have not posted on any of the other threads, only your own god bothering orb videos, which to me makes your agenda quite clear. The admin of this site is Catholic. He is a believer, a Son Of God! God has nothing to do with religion. Study the Bible and you will understand. My agenda is to spread the truth. Don't take my mission out of context. my last word on this, if I joined a religious forum and started a thread calling all religion shit then I would expect a very rough ride indeed, before I was banned that is. Antagonize me all you want, I will not take your bait. The admin here is nice and open minded (unlike you) and will never ban me!
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Post by uforn on Oct 13, 2012 15:23:49 GMT 1
Yes they do as using HOAX material on this forum will not be tolerated. So are you telling me you knew the Images were faked? And did you also know your cropcircle footage was faked ? If the photos were indeed faked, then I would have never included them. As for the "faked" crop circle footage, I included my source already. It comes from the movie, "Crop Circles - Crossover From Another Dimension." I don't know how an old man with a video camera can fake an unstabilized video and show it to his friends minutes later, only to then have the proof substantiated the following morning by aerial photographs of a 100 yard plus crop circle. The cropcircle was indeed real, the footage of the orbs creating it is a HOAX it was done by a guy called John Whaley (Wheyleigh/Wabe). He worked for a production company called First Cut TV. He admitted the HOAX on Nippon TV. The cropcircle & video is known as the Oliver's Castle footage. Here is a very good link that explains this HOAX in great detail. www.robertschoch.net/Crop%20Circle%20Video%20Oliver's%20Castle%20Fraud%20LWCMD%20CT.htm Now that you know the footage you have used is Fake, are you going to remove the video from youtube? You dont want to deceive anyone do you ?
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Post by meldrew on Oct 13, 2012 15:57:07 GMT 1
ooh can I antagonize you, because I've been quite polite so far.
what is your take on being open minded ?
explain how believing in a god has anything to do with UFOs.
as you say I know nothing about the subject I look forward to be enlightened by you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 19:37:21 GMT 1
Hello All,
If Steve Basset of the Paradigm Research Group submitted a petition to the White House' "We the People" program with the demand that the U.S. government come clean WRT the existence of God they would dance around as much as if it was the Alien question. The evidence for both is circumstantial. In the case of God the reference for proof is a book. Within tat book is a collection of other books all written AFTER the fact. Using the same metaphors, turns of phrase and imagery I could write one about President Nixon, Golda Mier, or any other government ruled society and attribute their shortcomings as well as successes to God. There are those who are digging up the desert everywhere in the Middle East looking for the Ark of the Covenant. Even if someone finds it it will not prove the existence of God.
Historically the bible is pretty accurate as far as people and places. I mean if an UFO is spotted in Milwaulkee, Wisconson, USA and one can't prove UFO's exist does that translate that Milwaulkee doesn't exist? Of course not. All I'm saying here is proof is lacking which makes the support for either subject fall into the category of soft data. One cannot prove soft data either way as in yes it's true and no it's not. The arguments then will never go away and Forums are rife with them as a result. Keeping an open mind is the only relief anyone gets.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 19:41:57 GMT 1
Hello meldrew,
Shouldn't your stars be purple?
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Nov 22, 2012 12:34:20 GMT 1
Now that you know the footage you have used is Fake, are you going to remove the video from youtube? You dont want to deceive anyone do you ? I'm not deceiving anyone. My argument is the focus of my intention. My sources are from the video in my next post, and not the accompanying "Holy-Wood" garbage I used to entertain my viewers.
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Post by suspendedbelief11 on Nov 22, 2012 12:39:37 GMT 1
ooh can I antagonize you, because I've been quite polite so far. what is your take on being open minded ? explain how believing in a god has anything to do with UFOs. as you say I know nothing about the subject I look forward to be enlightened by you. Open mindedness is not flipping out when you meet someone who hasn't reached your "masters degree in super intelligence."
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Post by meldrew on Nov 22, 2012 13:16:00 GMT 1
we had a laugh at your ATS thread what was it again, oh yes "A Flock Of UFOs Hit By Laser Beam" filmed by you lol, they were birds, Geese I believe, did you get banned for posting that drivel that very quickly got removed ? is that why your back here, to post more drivel ? did you make up the title Flock of UFOs, why not a squadron of UFOs, your so full of it you need a laxative.
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