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Post by meldrew on Oct 16, 2012 9:43:44 GMT 1
Home Secretary Theresa May is due to announce whether computer hacker Gary McKinnon will be extradited to the US. Mr McKinnon, who admits accessing US government computers but claims he was looking for evidence of UFOs, has been fighting extradition since 2006. The 46-year-old, who has been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, could face 60 years in jail if convicted in the US. Meanwhile, reports suggest that Mrs May will also announce changes to Britain's extradition arrangements with the US. Mr McKinnon's case has been highlighted by critics who say it is too easy for the US to demand the handover of UK citizens. David Cameron raised the issue with President Barack Obama during a meeting at the White House in March and said he would like to see a review. Court decision The Daily Mail reports the home secretary is planning to introduce a measure that would make it more likely UK citizens would be tried in the UK - if that is where their alleged crimes took place. The newspaper says the introduction of the so-called forum bar means a court hearing would have to be held to decide where a person should stand trial. It says Mrs May will make the announcement when she addresses the Commons to give her ruling on Mr McKinnon, from Wood Green, north London. Mr McKinnon's lawyer, Karen Todner, said she had been calling for such a move for years. She told the BBC: "It would be absolutely fantastic if she does bring that in - but she must combine it with not sending Gary." BBC legal correspondent Clive Coleman said this would be "seismic" for the UK's extradition arrangements with the US. He said the measure was already part of an amendment to the Extradition Act but had never been given legislative force - it would require the approval of both Houses of Parliament. Psychiatrist assessment US authorities have described the Glasgow-born hacker's actions as the "biggest military computer hack of all time" and have demanded he face justice in America. They insisted his hacking was "intentional and calculated to influence and affect the US government by intimidation and coercion". The Americans said his actions caused $800,000 (£487,000) worth of damage to military computer systems. Mr McKinnon has previously lost appeals in the High Court and the House of Lords against his extradition, but two years ago a High Court judge ruled Mr McKinnon would be at risk of suicide if sent away. Earlier this year Mrs May put the decision on hold to allow Home Office appointed psychiatrists to conduct an assessment. They also concluded that Mr McKinnon would be likely to take his own life if he was sent to face trial in the US. 'Zombified life' Our correspondent said the home secretary could only halt the extradition on human rights grounds - and he believed this latest report provided her with a basis to do that. If Mrs May allows the extradition to go ahead, lawyers for Mr McKinnon are expected to apply for a judicial review to challenge the decision. A provisional hearing date has been set in the High Court for 28 and 29 November. Mr McKinnon's mother, Janis Sharp, told the BBC her son had lived a "zombified life" for the past decade, which had "destroyed him". Ms Sharp is calling for him to be tried in the UK and believes extradition powers would be used inappropriately if he was forced to travel to the US. "This was supposed to be for terrorists this treaty - if you were in a country and you committed a heinous crime and you fled - it wasn't meant for this kind of thing." She added that Mr McKinnon's Asperger's Syndrome - a form of autism - meant he believed he would be put to death if he was extradited. Isabelle Sankey, policy director of human rights group Liberty, said Mr McKinnon was a vulnerable person who should not be extradited. "He's got Asperger's Syndrome, he's in absolute terror about what might happen to him if he gets over to the US and medical experts have talked about the fact that he's actually at risk of suicide," she said. "It's absolute madness in this case to take him abroad and we very much hope the home secretary shows some compassion and common sense." www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138
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Post by uforn on Oct 16, 2012 13:46:39 GMT 1
Theyve updated the article, Gary will not be extradited to the US. Its only took 10 years to make that decision Here's an interview with Gary where he explains what he done its from 2006. www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PkNPCEnJM
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Post by meldrew on Oct 16, 2012 14:27:11 GMT 1
good luck to the guy, does this mean he can tell what he really found out, if I remember he was holding back in case it harmed his case.
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Post by uforn on Oct 16, 2012 14:58:11 GMT 1
good luck to the guy, does this mean he can tell what he really found out, if I remember he was holding back in case it harmed his case. I agree, for once our Gov has done the right thing. In the video I posted Gary talks about a photo that was took in space that showed a cigar shaped UFO. He may well tell us more after he has been to trial, lets hope so as I think he is on the level. He did an interview with project camelot but Ive not watched it so I dont know what he has said there.
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Post by meldrew on Oct 16, 2012 15:16:08 GMT 1
I've seen the camelot interview, its filmed in a pub beer garden, thats were he said there was information not yet revealed, I think.
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Post by uforn on Oct 16, 2012 15:36:47 GMT 1
Here's the Project Camelot interview. Quote: I [Kerry Cassidy] caught up with Gary McKinnon in North London on my way back from safari in Kenya. The interview was shot using a hand-held camcorder and uploaded at 4 am UK time, making use of a wireless connection outside of an office building in downtown Birmingham. This is what is known as guerilla filmmaking...
We sat in the back of his local pub, in a garden in the late afternoon. Gary is lucid, eloquent and extremely intelligent. He made it clear that the real reason the Americans want to extradite him is not for any damage he has done, for in fact there wasn't any. They are pursuing him is because of what he might have seen. Specifically, documents revealing a list of "Non-terrestrial officers" and off-world cargo operations somewhere out in space, hinting at the real possibility of military activities taking place in relation to other planets.
Such a possibility has got to be mind-blowing to the average person who barely grasps that there might actually be aliens from other worlds interacting with earth and governments in the vicinity of our solar system. Key to the whole extradition matter is the issue that there were NO passwords required in order to access this material... and that a relatively unprofessional hacker, self-taught albeit brilliant, would be able, using a dial-up modem, to gain top secret access to NASA files and places as sacrosanct as the Pentagon. |
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Post by meldrew on Oct 16, 2012 16:50:23 GMT 1
Expert in US Federal Law and International Extradition Douglas McNabb tells the BBC the US Attorney's Office will be "livid" when they learn of the decision not to extradite Gary McKinnon. "They take a very aggressive approach, extra territoriality - and they have been attempting to secure Mr McKinnon's body for close to ten years next month - so they are not going to be happy at all." Edward Fitzgerald QC, another of Mr McKinnon's lawyers, says it was only thanks to the Human Rights Act that the extradition was halted. BBC chief political correspondent Norman Smith says the home secretary's decision has been met with widespread support in Westminster. Two select committees, the prime minister, deputy prime minister, attorney general and a parliamentary vote had all opposed extradition. Norman Smith adds there are two possible problems. The first is the reaction of the US which has pursued him fairly doggedly for ten years and could decide to persist in some way perhaps go through Interpol for a Red Order. The other is the extent of the reform Ms May pushes forward with, some fearing it isn't nearly far enough. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19962844
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Post by uforn on Oct 16, 2012 16:58:36 GMT 1
I cant wait to see what the backlash from the US Gov. is going to be on this.
They going to be bouncing all over the place. LMAO ;D
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Post by meldrew on Oct 16, 2012 17:10:38 GMT 1
there was some praise for the Daily Mail and Paul Dacre, they were thanked for all the help and support. So we can safely say the the Mail will have all the rights to McKinnons full story, the most untrustworhty news paper there is
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Post by uforn on Oct 16, 2012 17:23:04 GMT 1
This is gona get real messy in the media now you can count on it.
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Post by meldrew on Oct 16, 2012 18:31:16 GMT 1
It would be possible to try McKinnon in the UK — but only if the US government were willing to send witnesses to an English court who could give evidence about security systems in the Pentagon, which must be highly unlikely. Joshua Rozenberg
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Post by uforn on Oct 16, 2012 18:41:19 GMT 1
It would be possible to try McKinnon in the UK — but only if the US government were willing to send witnesses to an English court who could give evidence about security systems in the Pentagon, which must be highly unlikely. Joshua Rozenberg have you got a link for that mate ?
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Post by meldrew on Oct 20, 2012 10:13:44 GMT 1
this article from march this year, shows up more flaws in the nasa security arrangements, this should be the main reason Gary Mckinnon was not extradited, not mental illness or the human rights act, remember Mckinnon was using dial up to hack nasa 10 years ago. Friday, March 2nd, 2012 Paul Martin, NASA’s Inspector General, gave written testimony in a House committee earlier this week detailing the security threats faced by their IT infrastructure. The thrust of the document is that NASA needs to double down on cybersecurity but, naturally, needs more money to do so. Their IT budget is $1.5 billion, but of that only $58 million was spent on security. Considering the enormous network of datacenters, laptops, operations centers, and research labs scattered around the world, this may not be nearly enough. As it is, in the last two years NASA has been hacked thousands of times. In one instance, the hackers gained full access to some NASA systems and credentials for 150 employees. NASA counted 5,408 security breaches where some access was given or malicious software was installed. In 2011 alone they had 47 attacks they described as “advanced persistent threats,” serious attacks by well-funded “individuals or nations.” Of those, 13 succeeded, and one attack based in China gained complete access to Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) systems — read, write, delete, add and delete users, modify logs, everything. Furthermore, they have lost dozens of laptops. And while government-wide, more than half of laptops are encrypted, NASA has yet to implement encryption as standard practice. The result: only one in a hundred NASA laptops is encrypted. People in security are likely shaking their heads. Encryption of employee laptops and total isolation of root access is something even a small business should be trying to do, to say nothing of a major government entity with enormous amounts of sensitive data. And that’s the point of this report: Martin is saying that NASA is the target of very serious hackers, and their approach to security is wildly out of date. They also are working hard to bridge the gap between security and control and the benefits of cloud computing. Martin describes the need essentially for modern security: thin clients and cloud computing, a top-down administration of security, 21st-century standards like encryption and password regulations, and a general move to a “continuous monitoring approach,” the way modern IT should be. They’ve addressed dozens of security issues and implemented many real improvements to their systems, but it’s a good example of a organization totally reliant on technology, yet unable to move as quickly as the threats they face. For tech and research entities, agility is becoming more important yearly, and NASA hopes to convince the House of that. techcrunch.com/2012/03/02/nasa-weve-been-hacked-thousands-of-times-because-of-inadequate-it-infrastructure/
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Post by uforn on Oct 20, 2012 11:22:53 GMT 1
I think Gary Mckinnon should get a huge pat on the back for what he has done, he has exposed serious flaws in NASA's security, they should be giving him a job!
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Post by meldrew on Oct 20, 2012 11:30:53 GMT 1
I think Gary Mckinnon should get a huge pat on the back for what he has done, he has exposed serious flaws in NASA's security, they should be giving him a job! yes, and if what he says about off Earth activities is true then he could also be regarded as the best UFO researcher ever
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Post by uforn on Oct 20, 2012 12:02:58 GMT 1
Gary said they were "non terrestrial officers" but not little green men, he said this in the project camelot interview. From what I can gather it looks like he has stumbled upon a Secret Space program. Quote: KC: Ah, so the designation wasn't there as far as which organization they worked for?
GM: Yeah. I mean, that was the title "Non-Terrestrial Officers", and obviously it's not little green men. So I was thinking: What force is this? And that phrase is nowhere to be found on the web or in official Army documentation or anything. And the other thing was a list of ship-to-ship and fleet-to-fleet transfers - and bear in mind fleet-to-fleet, that means multiple ships - movement of materials. And these ships weren't, you know, US Navy ships. Again, I don't remember any of the names, but I remember at the time looking and trying to match up the names, and there wasn't anything that matched.
KC: So, now, this theoretically would have been pretty top secret information if indeed non-terrestrial is what it sounds to be, which is off-world, right?
GM: Yeah. I mean, I gleaned from that information... What I surmised is that an off-planet Space Marines is being formed. And if you actually look at DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, literature at the moment and in the last few years, a lot of government and space command stuff is all about space dominance. It is really, you know, the final frontier. Yeah, so I think it's natural for them to want to control space and to be developing a space-going force in secret. But I think most likely using technology reverse-engineered from ETs. projectcamelot.org/lang/en/gary_mckinnon_interview_transcript_en.html |
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Post by uforn on Oct 23, 2012 13:29:27 GMT 1
UFO hacker Gary McKinnon was helped by MP Grant Shapps ‘behind the scenes’ ..To send a link to this page to a friend, you must be logged in. .. Janis Sharp had been fighting for ten years to prevent Gary McKinnon being tried in America and said Welwyn Hatfield MP Grant Shapps had helped influence the government’s decision to keep the 46-year-old in Britain. The Brookmans Park resident said: “He did not do it publicly but he did a lot behind the scenes. “He was speaking to David Cameron which is pretty helpful and when I was at Number 10, he helped when I was meeting the guy who deals with extradition – Damian Green. “He did a lot and he didn’t do it for publicity.” Home Secretary Theresa May last week ruled that Mr McKinnon should not be sent across the Atlantic as he suffers from Aspergers syndrome and it would be “incompatible with his human rights”. The hacker broke into top secret US government computers to search for evidence of aliens and faced up to 60 years in American prison after being arrested in March 2002. It is alleged Mr McKinnon deleted weapons logs and copied sensitive information with the US claiming it cost over $700,000 to repair the damage. He claims he did not cause any damage but may have to stand trial in the UK to prove his innocence. Mrs Sharp said: “It’s a huge relief to have that weight off our minds [of the extradition]. If there is a trial here that’s fine, Gary can prove that he didn’t do the damage. “Gary has his family here surrounding him rather than being in a country where he doesn’t know anyone - and would be confined in a horrific prison system. “Here he will be on bail, have his family support and go through the process – that is what we have been fighting for.” Mr Shapps said: “It is a good decision by the Home Secretary, I have spoken with Gary’s mum Janis for many years - she’s over the moon and as her constituency MP I’m absolutely delighted.” At the time of going to press the Crown Prosecution Service had not decided whether Mr McKinnon would stand trial. Source: www.whtimes.co.uk/news/ufo_hacker_gary_mckinnon_was_helped_by_mp_grant_shapps_behind_the_scenes_1_1664654
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Post by meldrew on Oct 23, 2012 18:46:22 GMT 1
those who don't know, Isaackoi is a Barrister in the UK, so he should know Billy Cox has written an article on this. the end of the Solo affair (finally)So after 10 years of legal wrangling, a UFO-obsessed Brit finally gets a reprieve and will not be shipped off to America to stand trial — what a relief. Let’s hope our Anglo allies have short memories. It’s easier to understand how this one began than how it ended. America's prosecution of UK hacker Gary McKinnon backfired and stoked an extradition controversy into a showcase for British nationalism/CREDIT: thedisclosureproject-steelmagnolia In March 2002, less than a year after 9/11, a loner named Gary McKinnon, on a cyberquest for the X-Files, gets arrested in London for hacking into restricted government systems. He’s accused of deleting and destroying reams of data as well as crashing 2,000 computers in one military district for 24 hours. Using the handle “Solo,” he leaves taunting messages, one of which correctly declares, “Your security is crap.” The Justice Department claims he caused nearly $1 million in damages, and one prosecutor calls him “the biggest military hack of all time.” Of course, this all occurs years before China takes us to school and begins targeting everything from U.S. command-and-control systems to satellite technology to natural gas pipelines. Using a simple low-tech program that scans for default passwords, McKinnon is a piker who exposes the most basic vulnerabilities in U.S. firewalls. And all he gets for his troubles — the most interesting thing, anyhow — is an unsubstantiated claim of proof that NASA scrubs UFO pix from official photos at Johnson Space Center. Brits were already suspicious of America’s black-hole rendition policies for professed enemies during the early double-aughts, but when McKinnon was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome with suicidal tendencies, the UK came together in a way it hasn’t seen since Hitler’s buzz bombs. With the U.S. refusing to make adjustments, Labour, Tories, Greens and all other manner of organized political thought rallied behind McKinnon’s bid to face justice at home. Celebs Julie Christie, Sting, Nick Hornby went public against the Yanks, David Gilmour, Bob Geldoff and Chrissie Hynde cut a protest song, and a lopsided Anglo-American extradition treaty signed in 2003 (“inadequate and unfair,” proclaimed former Archbishop of Canterbury assistant Terry Waite) went up for reassessment. Following the High Court’s deferential review of that pact, London Mayor Boris Johnson accused judges of “dog-like grovelling to America,” their ruling “one of the most protoplasmic acts of self-abasement since Suez.” British Home Secretary Theresa May finally put an end to the travesty last week by announcing her office wouldn’t extradite homeboy, due in large part to its concerns over McKinnon’s mental state. There wasn’t much left for Washington to say after this 10-year wash. “The United States is disappointed by the decision to deny Gary McKinnon’s extradition to face long overdue justice in the United States,” volunteered the State Department. “We are examining the details of the decision.” Too bad we’ve been deprived of a show trial to give China a look at how tough we can be in this new age of cyberwar. But all things considered, “we” got off lucky. McKinnon didn’t produce any tangible clandestine UFO data, and the controversial extradition accord remains intact. The best thing that can happen now is if no one on this side of the Atlantic mentions Gary McKinnon’s name again. devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13356/the-end-of-the-solo-affair-finally/
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Post by bazmatic on Oct 23, 2012 21:15:11 GMT 1
NASA hacked by someone on dial up! No encryption on NASA laptops! Ranks of 'non-terrestrial' personnel found! Trade agreements with other planets? Looks to me like they wanted this to be found, fought over (makes it even more believable) and the disinformation highway gets longer ,I could be wrong, but, the whole thing just doesn't seem right Or Yes he hacked, he saw, he was going to get banged up in America so. '' look here chap, you are going to America, you are going to get banged up for a very long time, so read the disinformation on the card, give out only what we make up and you can have a happy life in Britain as the disinformation puppet''
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Post by uforn on Oct 24, 2012 13:56:19 GMT 1
NASA hacked by someone on dial up! No encryption on NASA laptops! Ranks of 'non-terrestrial' personnel found! Trade agreements with other planets? Looks to me like they wanted this to be found, fought over (makes it even more believable) and the disinformation highway gets longer ,I could be wrong, but, the whole thing just doesn't seem right Or Yes he hacked, he saw, he was going to get banged up in America so. '' look here chap, you are going to America, you are going to get banged up for a very long time, so read the disinformation on the card, give out only what we make up and you can have a happy life in Britain as the disinformation puppet'' I dont think its dissinfo at all mate, yes it was possible to hack with a dial up connection back then. Where did Gary say there were trade agreements with other planets as I cant find it ?
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Post by bazmatic on Oct 24, 2012 16:08:25 GMT 1
sorry not trade agreements, I think he said something about fleet to fleet transfers and I assumed it would be trade goods!
I don't like this story and I think that his hacking attempts were found very early on and he was passed on to another server which let him believe that he had succeeded in gaining access, this server had the false info which we are now hearing about:)
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Post by meldrew on Oct 24, 2012 16:15:44 GMT 1
I reckon there will be a film about this, with Benedict Cumberbatch playing Gary McKinnon.
there will be some revelations also as the Daily Mail are involved with McKinnon, we just have to wait, probably untill the CPS say McKinnon is not to face any charges.
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Post by uforn on Oct 24, 2012 16:22:54 GMT 1
sorry not trade agreements, I think he said something about fleet to fleet transfers and I assumed it would be trade goods! I don't like this story and I think that his hacking attempts were found very early on and he was passed on to another server which let him believe that he had succeeded in gaining access, this server had the false info which we are now hearing about:) The fleet to fleet transfers could mean anything Baz, but from what he says and believes they were us not aliens. If he was handed over to another server with dissinfo on, then why has the US Gov done their best over the last 10 years to get him extradited to face trial there ?
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Post by bazmatic on Oct 24, 2012 18:12:24 GMT 1
Gary has unwittingly played the disinformation game, the more America wants him, the more we will believe the info
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Post by dbh on Nov 14, 2012 23:13:25 GMT 1
I belong to MUFON, and here we have local chapters. I was at a meeting this past weekend and we had an unexpected visitor. She was a woman almost 80 years old…
She asked what we knew about this guy – Gary…
Specifically, she mentioned, from what she had heard…. That when he first broke into these computers… DOE, NASA, DOD, and etc… he had uncovered some documents and before he was caught, he had posted these documents to the web somewhere
has anyone ever heard of this before? I know Gary had claimed there were other "hackers" but has anyone ever heard of these documents being posted anywhere?
Specifically, there was one document in particular that she had mentioned and is scouring the earth to find it….
Okay… I guess Gary located a “flight manifest” that had listed all of the soldiers and the duties of these soldiers of a fleet of craft that was stationed in space. She also made some claims that on this manifest were names of aliens who were also onboard. I am not saying I believe, I am just passing this along….
The reason for her visiting us is that she was also told, from someone else who had seen this manifest that her sons name was on this list. She was also told from the US government... like 25 years ago that, her son had died in a military accident but was never told exactly when, where, or how.
Like I said, since then she was told her sons name was on this list and is attempting to find out the truth…
Do any of know or ever heard of any such document? If this is true, might there be a site out there that contains his uploaded documents?
When she first started telling this story, I immediately thought of this group as being one who might know any sort of additional information. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by meldrew on Nov 14, 2012 23:50:59 GMT 1
when I looked into this, the first thing I thought was find as an early interview as I could, so I found the first ever interview by Gary Mckinnon. the interviewer is Jon Ronson author of The Men Who Stare At Goats. he isn't a dumbass, Jon Ronson knows his stuff, here's the full interview. www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2005/jul/09/weekend7.weekend2I found these points worth a note. Jon Ronson The Guardian, Saturday 9 July 2005 This is Gary's first interview. some extracts I started going to places where I really shouldn't be". "Like where?" I ask. "The US Space Command," he says. And so, for the next seven years, on and off, Gary sat in his girlfriend's aunt's house, a joint in the ashtray and a can of Foster's next to the mouse pad, and he snooped. From time to time, some Nasa scientist sitting at his desk somewhere would see his cursor move for no apparent reason. On those occasions, Gary's connection would be abruptly cut. he says, he was never alone. "Once you're on the network, you can do a command called NetStat - Network Status - and it lists all the connections to that machine. There were hackers from Denmark, Italy, Germany, Turkey, Thailand ..." "All on at once?" I ask. "You could see hackers from all over the world, snooping around, without the spaceniks or the military realising?" "Every night," he says, "for the entire five to seven years I was doing this." "What was the most exciting thing you saw?" I ask. "I found a list of officers' names," he claims, "under the heading 'Non-Terrestrial Officers'." "Non-Terrestrial Officers?" I say. "Yeah, I looked it up," says Gary, "and it's nowhere. It doesn't mean little green men. What I think it means is not earth-based. I found a list of 'fleet-to-fleet transfers', and a list of ship names. I looked them up. They weren't US navy ships. What I saw made me believe they have some kind of spaceship, off-planet." the Americans offered him a deal, via his British solicitor. "They said, 'If you incur the cost of the whole extradition process, be a good boy, come over here, we'll give you three or four years, rather than the whole sentence.' I said, 'OK, give me that in writing.' They said, 'Oh no, we can't do that.' So they were offering a secret trial, no right of appeal on the outcome, no comment to the newspapers, and nothing in writing. My solicitor, doing her job, advised me to take it, and when I said no, she was very, 'Ooh, they're going to come down heavy.' " In return, Gary offered a somewhat hare-brained counter deal, via a Virginia public defender. "I made a sort of veiled threat to them. I said, 'You know the places I've been, so you know the stuff I've seen' kind of thing." He pauses and blushes slightly. "That didn't work." "So you were saying, 'If you go heavy on me, I'll tell people what I found'?" "Yeah," he says. "And I found out that my landline was being bugged, so every time I was on the phone talking to a friend about it, I made sure I'd say, 'All I want is a quiet life, but if they really want to drag me through it, I'll drag them through the shit, too.' " "And what would you have dragged them through the shit about?" I ask. "You know," says Gary, "the, uh, Non-Terrestrial Officers. The spaceships. 'The whole world thinks it's cooperating in building the International Space Station, but you've already got a space-based army that you refer to as Non-Terrestrial Officers'." There is a silence. "I had very little evidence," he admits. "It's not a very good bargaining chip at all, really, is it?" Given that the justice department has announced that the information Gary downloaded was not "classified", and he was stoned much of the time, perhaps we can assume that Nasa is not too worried about his "discoveries". www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2005/jul/09/weekend7.weekend2so from his very first interview he doesn't mention the files, he does mention he didn't have any evidence.
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Post by meldrew on Nov 15, 2012 11:26:21 GMT 1
he says, he was never alone."Once you're on the network, you can do a command called NetStat - Network Status - and it lists all the connections to that machine. There were hackers from Denmark, Italy, Germany, Turkey, Thailand ..."
"All on at once?" I ask. "You could see hackers from all over the world, snooping around, without the spaceniks or the military realising?"
"Every night," he says, "for the entire five to seven years I was doing this."
I thought this worthy of a point, these hackers from around the world would have seen whatever Gary McKinon saw, why has no other hacker backed up McKinon's version ?
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