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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 8:13:03 GMT 1
Is it me or in the last year in the UK UFO sightings or reports have quietened down quite a bit? Also I really don't think there is anyone specifically and publicly investigating the subject in the UK anymore either. Some researchers have gone behind closed doors or have simply give up it seems. What does everyone else think?
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Post by uforn on Feb 28, 2015 12:41:53 GMT 1
Hi theshadow there are still people Investigating in the UK, just off the top of my head there is Dave Hodrien of Birmingham UFO group, Richard D Hall of Richlanet and Bufora.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 8:25:25 GMT 1
Ok but Dave Hodrien is not really hands on, and Richard is just out for fame and glory. He actually relies on info gathered from the internet and does not go and physically investigate himself. That's my point though, who actually goes out and investigates sightings, contacts, abductions, mutilations etc etc. There is no one of worth anymore...
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Post by uforn on Mar 2, 2015 14:00:51 GMT 1
Richard used to go and do field Investigations, I agree he is in it for fame and the money. As far as I was aware Dave did or does field Investigations. When it comes to cattle mutilations Phil Hoyle and David Cayton were or still are Investigating them (David Cayton is also a UFO Investigator) not sure if he is still in the field. Cropcircles I believe Colin Andrews still Investigates those. As for abductions I don't believe they happen.
I think one of the reasons there is a lack of field Investigations is down to the UFO sightings themselves. You have to go back to 2007 for a good UFO sighting in the UK, all these recent ones that spread like wildfire on the internet are usually not worth looking at.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 8:11:26 GMT 1
Never heard of those two guys so I expect that they are not very well known. As for Colin Andrews well I don't trust him because of his connections to the MoD. He actually works for them now I believe, and is said to be advising them etc. It's a really shame as there is literally no one who looks like they bother, and not even with classic cases either.
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Post by uforn on Mar 3, 2015 15:05:25 GMT 1
Never heard of those two guys so I expect that they are not very well known. As for Colin Andrews well I don't trust him because of his connections to the MoD. He actually works for them now I believe, and is said to be advising them etc. It's a really shame as there is literally no one who looks like they bother, and not even with classic cases either. Hi theshadow, David Cayton has been around UFO's for a long time, most Researchers like myself know of him. David used to be a UFO Investigator for Quest International with the late Tony Dodd, I think he also spent some time with Bufora but don't quote me on that I would have to check Phil Hoyle has been around Cattle Mutilations since at least 2001 with David Cayton. I believe Phil Hoyle along with David formed APFU (Animal Pathology field unit). I disagree with your comment that no one seems to bother with the classic cases. There are many UFO Researchers doing some good things that your probably not aware of when it comes to old classic cases and getting documentation and other literature made available for Research.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 11:28:36 GMT 1
I looked into them both and your right. However it seems Cayton and Hoyle have stopped investigating in particular the latter. I sent an email to Hoyle via a website advertising known UK groups, he replied saying APFU has ceased to exist due to him not having the time or energy to keep it going. He also said that he has stopped because he got infiltrated by either Government or other about three years ok. They found out all his research and private info on UFOs which made him paranoid. He said he does not trust anyone so doesn't bother with it etc. Maybe what happened with him is happening across the board, and investigators are fearful of authorities watching them? I know I would be as you just never know I suppose. Nick.
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Post by uforn on Mar 5, 2015 13:24:54 GMT 1
Hi theshadow I knew the APFU website was down but I didn't know Phil Hoyle had stopped the Research. Thanks for letting me know. I don't buy into the story he told you about getting infiltrated by the Gov, they don't need to do anything UFO Investigators/Researchers do a good enough job at discrediting themselves most the time.
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Post by barry on Mar 5, 2015 15:56:12 GMT 1
LOL! ufo researchers dis themselves.....never a true'r word spoken
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Post by uforn on Mar 9, 2015 14:41:37 GMT 1
LOL! ufo researchers dis themselves.....never a true'r word spoken Its the "Sad Truth" unfortunately, you just have to look at the " Roswell Slides Circus" that's unfolding at the min
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Post by Peter on Apr 2, 2015 20:31:08 GMT 1
Op has a good point and let's face it things have gone quiet in the UK. Plus there is no one of credit in the UK anymore. It's sad that these certain ufo groups still promote themselves as the real deal when all then want is fame. The Brum good is a good example.
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Post by hiflier on Apr 2, 2015 22:06:52 GMT 1
Hello Peter,
I'll toss in my two cents here for what it's worth. Let's say there is extraterrestrial life out there and it has evolved enough both physically and technologically such that it got them here. One could then reason that a race with that kind of machinery is going to be able to stay ahead of our own technological advances. Once there were jets that were scrambled. Now there's a Space Station, particle accelerators, and detection equipment that can monitor every inch of the ground and sky to include many wavelengths of communication. Spectroscopy, Kepler, Hubble, Fermi Gamma Ray detection......you get the idea. Oh, and computers that are so fast and can pinpoint a flying object in a millisecond.
The only way I can see to outrun and outmaneuver this kind of stuff is to always be faster and leave less of a trace. If a UFO does or must show itself it seems logical that the event will be brief and no one or almost no one will ever see it. You might ask then why bother? I cannot answer that one. But what I say is if ET is really here then true knowledge of it might be even more fearful knowing that they can still elude us regardless of all our gear along with the type of weaponry and aircraft that we have. The flip side of the coin is that true knowledge would also greatly embarrass the military before the ones it's sworn to protect. I don't think the knowledge of current Human capabilities still being powerless when it comes to ET would sit too well on many levels.
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Post by vitonian on Jun 6, 2015 22:45:37 GMT 1
Is it me or in the last year in the UK UFO sightings or reports have quietened down quite a bit? Also I really don't think there is anyone specifically and publicly investigating the subject in the UK anymore either. Some researchers have gone behind closed doors or have simply give up it seems. What does everyone else think? Hi I started as a freelance UFO Investigator in 1972. I later worked with Tony Dodd during my time with Quest International. There does appear to be less UFO reports. There are numerous very valid reasons for this. Almost too mant to list! Also it wouldn't be prudent to list some of the reasons on any form of website. It would be better to pass on some topics of information via e-mail to any interested party. I many ways, continuing to investigate UFOs, on a general level: Lights in the sky, fuzzy photos and that sort of thing. Its all been done. Also, more and more people have come to accept the existence of alien craft. That means, there's less reason to go out ans stand in chilly fields in the early hours watching for UFOs! Investigations were so intense, there was/is? very little reason to continue in that sort of way. Things have advanced, as has - UFO technology. UFOs are now using invisibility to get around. Not that that tech is totally new to them, but its now "safer" Mankind has very advanced tracking equipment and attack aircraft/spacecraft, along with PBWs and missiles. Then there's "Space Watch" The department that keeps a look out for any incomimg asteroids, comets and other "objects" As we all now know... the military sections of governments no longer deny the existence of UFOs. They state thet "They are of no defence significance" However, that doesn't mean that the powers that be are willing to tell us what they consider UFOs to be. Either because they don't know themselves, or can't risk informing the public. Then, of course, there's tha fact that some things ARE best kept secret. No one who knew the winning lottery numbers for the following weeks draw would share those numbers. Knowledge is power and , those in power, want to keep it that way. As for my investigations. I started to concentrate more and more on the alien abduction scenerio. There were two reasons for this. My sightings database was full! By full; I mean there was little more to add, as UFO sightings were more of the same. The only major differences were regarding the shapes of the objects. We've now since learned, that many UFOs are 'shape-shifters'. It all depends on what work they're carrying out (Speed, hovering, time-dilation, etc). The triangle is, of course, the best shape for atmospheric travel. It also makes them look less conspicuous. Many see triangular UFOs and think they're stealth aircraft or demo machines. The other reason? - I ended up inside a UFO! That occurred on the 22nd of October 1991. A totally life changing event and one that ruined my physical health, but improved me in other ways. I'm still not sure if the good outweighs the bad! However, it happened and there's nothing I can do to change that fact. Sorry to be a little long-winded with my first post. I hope you've found it interesting and if you need any more details, please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers, Bill
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 23:01:21 GMT 1
Is it me or in the last year in the UK UFO sightings or reports have quietened down quite a bit? Also I really don't think there is anyone specifically and publicly investigating the subject in the UK anymore either. Some researchers have gone behind closed doors or have simply give up it seems. What does everyone else think? Hi I started as a freelance UFO Investigator in 1972. I later worked with Tony Dodd during my time with Quest International. There does appear to be less UFO reports. There are numerous very valid reasons for this. Almost too mant to list! Also it wouldn't be prudent to list some of the reasons on any form of website. It would be better to pass on some topics of information via e-mail to any interested party. I many ways, continuing to investigate UFOs, on a general level: Lights in the sky, fuzzy photos and that sort of thing. Its all been done. Also, more and more people have come to accept the existence of alien craft. That means, there's less reason to go out ans stand in chilly fields in the early hours watching for UFOs! Investigations were so intense, there was/is? very little reason to continue in that sort of way. Things have advanced, as has - UFO technology. UFOs are now using invisibility to get around. Not that that tech is totally new to them, but its now "safer" Mankind has very advanced tracking equipment and attack aircraft/spacecraft, along with PBWs and missiles. Then there's "Space Watch" The department that keeps a look out for any incomimg asteroids, comets and other "objects" As we all now know... the military sections of governments no longer deny the existence of UFOs. They state thet "They are of no defence significance" However, that doesn't mean that the powers that be are willing to tell us what they consider UFOs to be. Either because they don't know themselves, or can't risk informing the public. Then, of course, there's tha fact that some things ARE best kept secret. No one who knew the winning lottery numbers for the following weeks draw would share those numbers. Knowledge is power and , those in power, want to keep it that way. As for my investigations. I started to concentrate more and more on the alien abduction scenerio. There were two reasons for this. My sightings database was full! By full; I mean there was little more to add, as UFO sightings were more of the same. The only major differences were regarding the shapes of the objects. We've now since learned, that many UFOs are 'shape-shifters'. It all depends on what work they're carrying out (Speed, hovering, time-dilation, etc). The triangle is, of course, the best shape for atmospheric travel. It also makes them look less conspicuous. Many see triangular UFOs and think they're stealth aircraft or demo machines. The other reason? - I ended up inside a UFO! That occurred on the 22nd of October 1991. A totally life changing event and one that ruined my physical health, but improved me in other ways. I'm still not sure if the good outweighs the bad! However, it happened and there's nothing I can do to change that fact. Sorry to be a little long-winded with my first post. I hope you've found it interesting and if you need any more details, please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers, Bill Hello Bill and welcome to UFORN...If I may ask what software do you use for your database? Or is it just a word processor? Curious because I am trying to build my own at the moment.
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Post by vitonian on Jun 6, 2015 23:17:51 GMT 1
HI
Thank you for the welcome. Microsoft Access is the one I use. However, there's loads of different kinds that do the job. At one time I just entered everything into Word. As it got so big, I found it easier to use a dedicated database.
Good luck with your projects. Cheers, Bill
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 23:29:22 GMT 1
HI Thank you for the welcome. Microsoft Access is the one I use. However, there's loads of different kinds that do the job. At one time I just entered everything into Word. As it got so big, I found it easier to use a dedicated database. Good luck with your projects. Cheers, Bill Shit! I am on a iMac....will have to see what I can find.
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Post by barry on Jun 7, 2015 7:42:16 GMT 1
Hi Vitoran,I would be very interested in your experience aboard the UFO. I to have had this experience a few times. I use my experiences to validate other peoples accounts. It would be best if you could message me so that important details do not get on the forum, (those are my checkpoints) It maybe that your UFO was nothing like mine but it would be good to exchange facts. I know that this event was trumatic so there is no pressure to reply to this post at all, I will understand, Baz
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 11:05:26 GMT 1
Hi Phil, I would be very interested in your experience aboard the UFO. I to have had this experience a few times. I use my experiences to validate other peoples accounts. It would be best if you could message me so that important details do not get on the forum, (those are my checkpoints) It maybe that your UFO was nothing like mine but it would be good to exchange facts. I know that this event was trumatic so there is no pressure to reply to this post at all, I will understand, Baz Hi barry. You must have confused me with some one else posting here. Have not had any experience like this.
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Post by barry on Jun 8, 2015 7:37:43 GMT 1
Sorry! (wrong topic)
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Post by uforn on Jun 8, 2015 15:45:13 GMT 1
Hi I started as a freelance UFO Investigator in 1972. I later worked with Tony Dodd during my time with Quest International. Bill Hi Bill Welcome to UFORN I would be very interested to hear about your time doing Investigations with Tony Dodd at Quest if you don't mind talking about them ?
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Post by uforn on Jun 8, 2015 15:48:05 GMT 1
Sorry! (wrong topic) Right topic wrong member baz, you were replying to member vitonian, who's name is Bill, he said in his post he had been in a UFO
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Post by barry on Jun 9, 2015 7:06:00 GMT 1
Sorry! getting old and confused LOL!
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