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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 1:31:04 GMT 1
Hello All, Someone started a website and gave me the web address. I called it up and it was one of only four websites on the entire page. I've actually never seen so few sites on a page- ever! Two others I do not remember at all, But the THIRD? I was practically in apoplectic shock after opening it: Read slow and carefully and post your thoughts. Please read thoroughly and do not jump to conclusions. This subject is going to require clear-headed comments and research. There is just too much here to gloss over and have a quick opinion based on one's past experience. This is way more complicated and much too big for that. Take your time and break it down into smaller pieces and we can take it one item or paragraph at a time. There won't be much room for personal agendas here as this Agenda will trump anyone else's by far! Not only that, the entire operation is absolutely true in every respect! And going on now. www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/HAVE FUN! hiflier
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Post by uforn on Jul 23, 2011 14:33:27 GMT 1
Hey hiflier Ive took a quick look can you tell me what this is all about as I think Im missing something.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2011 3:34:58 GMT 1
Hello uforn,
In a nutshell? One cannot take a quick look. You know this just from perusing the site. I found it to be quite large and with all the programs, subprograms, action memos, meetings all over the Globe etc. it was going to take some doing to get through it all.
Presidents George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush signed on. There was an article that accused the U.N.'s Agenda as being Communism/Socialism. More study is needed here. Maybe I can find out more on some political Forums but at the moment I'm pretty tired of Forums. I mean if UFO Forums aren't difficult enough the political ones I'll bet are brutal!
Generally, Agenda speaks to the implementation of a Global design for living which institutes complete say so WRT land ownership, accessibility, and use for "economic sustainability", citing the point that most of the undeveloped land in the World is owned by the wealthy. So evening up the economic disparity is a major goal. I personally see the whole thing as folks at the top getting law passed to exploit everything. There are legitimate groups fighting this but part of the Agenda is making agreements with entities as small as counties and local businesses thus undermining governments at the national level the world over.
It's interesting but needs good discerning minds to thoroughly go over everything. I'm working on just that in order to accuratly paraphrase the denser material. Anyone's help would be welcomed.
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Post by ronologic on Jul 25, 2011 6:10:17 GMT 1
I read the Rio Dclaration part and this is going to take some time to understand all of the principle parts to it. I think what is needed here to decipher all the mubo jumbo is someone that KNOWS and UNDERSTANDS the definition of EACH word, and understand, each word has a specific definition, and NOT a MEANING. Somewhat like people missuse the word volitile and explosive in the same context. Two totally different things. Explosive things go BOOM like right now!! Volitile things evaporate slowly. Get the picture. Get a dictionary and go over each word one at a time and you will understand what is going on there.
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Post by uforn on Jul 26, 2011 11:25:29 GMT 1
There's so much to go over here it would take years to get everything right and be able to understand it all. This has probably been covered by Ian R Crane it might be a good idea to try and contact him and ask his thoughts on the matter.
You seem to know abit about this hiflier so if you would like to contact him here's his details:
Ian R Crane Apt 4, Wolborough Heights, South Road, Newton Abbot, TQ12 1HQ
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UK: 0207 558 8869 International: +44 207 558 8869
Mob: 0779 151 8740
Email: info@ianRcrane.co.uk
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2011 23:01:17 GMT 1
Hello uforn,
Thanks for the info. I don't know the person but if you think it would be worth a try I'm game. There must be someone around who decipher's UN-Speak and maybe could accurately paraphrase some of the high points. It would be better to know exactly what this vision is projecting for the real world. I for one would like to see the end picture as proposed in the Agenda's guidelines.
I always hear the pols orate along the idea of staying the course, or of changing the course depending on the whether their an encumbent or a candidate. I have never known what the ambiguous use of the word "course" meant because I've never known what the "course WAS! Perhaps this programme is actually saying what it is hidden in all the nebulous mumbo jumbo.
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Post by uforn on Aug 2, 2011 12:31:41 GMT 1
Hello uforn, Thanks for the info. I don't know the person but if you think it would be worth a try I'm game. There must be someone around who decipher's UN-Speak and maybe could accurately paraphrase some of the high points. It would be better to know exactly what this vision is projecting for the real world. I for one would like to see the end picture as proposed in the Agenda's guidelines. I always hear the pols orate along the idea of staying the course, or of changing the course depending on the whether their an encumbent or a candidate. I have never known what the ambiguous use of the word "course" meant because I've never known what the "course WAS! Perhaps this programme is actually saying what it is hidden in all the nebulous mumbo jumbo. Hey hiflier, I think it would be a very good idea to drop Ian R Crane an email as he is right into the truth movement and Im sure he would have covered this many times
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2011 3:10:06 GMT 1
Hello uforn,
I am still weighing the idea of entering into a dialogue with Mr. Crane and the Truth Movement in general but first I wish to bring up the point of this thread. It's not so much because of the Agenda 21 programme itself as the idea that the concept was brought to the U.N. barely 10 years after U.N. resolution 33/426 concerning establishing an UFO world committee.
So what does the fact that Agenda 21 and it's significance for the future "look" of the World say about the exclusion of the UFO phenomenon from being within the parameters of the Agenda's goals? This is the real reason for bringing the subject up on an UFO Forum to begin with. Otherwise I would just pursue it on a World government Forum. I thought the lack of consideration of the UFO angle in the World's future interesting.
The fact that Vallee, Hyneck, and other heavy hitters like Stanton Friedman were so central in the acceptance of what appears now to be just a straw resolution postured for appeasing and silencing the public's rabbling, makes the whole thing even more curious. Any thoughts? Anyone interested in investigating this approach? There has been so much talk WRT the icons of the UFO world somehow being turned and becoming all but useless to the interested public, including Nick Pope. So, what gives? Anyone care to sink their teeth into this one?
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