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Post by uforn on Dec 31, 2010 16:12:01 GMT 1
Done abit searching on how to encode / decode Binary Code this is the result google turned up all you do is add the Binary and click decode, now all we need is the full Binary Code  nickciske.com/tools/binary.phpI some how get the feeling tho that Binary Decode cant be that easy without some clever software  |
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Post by meldrew on Dec 31, 2010 16:24:35 GMT 1
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Post by happytohelp on Dec 31, 2010 16:50:15 GMT 1
After studying this more I realized that its easier to decode by reading the pauses as they were written.
In Binary the 0 and 1's are bits. 8 bits make a byte. Several places they writing is grouped in eights. So, it's vital to get the scanned copies and not just the transcript.
I am confident that it's EXPLORATION ON HUMANITY instead of EXPLORATION OF HUMANITY.
It would also be helpful to understand this handful of questions.
How fast the numbers were given?
Where there pauses, or Spaces if visualized?
How Certain is James that they were accurately recorded?
One space shows it scratched out, why? Was it a mistake?
Was it lines and a circles or a ones and a zeros?
Were all bits the same height? Were any larger?
Nick Ciske's decode is a good one, but maybe I can help him flush out a little bit more. Once I see the whole context it might be that there were no errors and that would mean there is more to the message. I will visually decode the scans and share so that I can offer the decode to be scrutinized.
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Post by uforn on Dec 31, 2010 16:57:14 GMT 1
Are you a programmer happytohelp? Reason i ask is from what i gather youve got to have some computer programming skills in order to understand Binary Code properly
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Post by coco on Dec 31, 2010 17:41:20 GMT 1
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Post by happytohelp on Dec 31, 2010 17:43:59 GMT 1
Are you a programmer happytohelp? Reason i ask is from what i gather youve got to have some computer programming skills in order to understand Binary Code properly I have done some programing in the past. I learned about Binary early in my studies for my Info Sci Degree. Even though we think most commonly about Binary in the terms of line level programing. It actually dates back in various ways through out history. ENIAC, the first Electric Computer (1940s), is where we get our modern version of binary. ENIAC Used large boards of vacuum tubes to store (register) instructions. If the Vacuum tube was on it was a "1" if it was Off it was a "0". In 1980's (when the Rendlesham Forest Event occurred. ) The same Standards we use today were not in use. So, I want to apply my understanding of the evolution of two value coding to hopefully properly decode the message. In the 1980s most large computers were still programed with punch cards and a punch card read out is in Binary but it wasn't always 8-bit. Sometimes it was 7-bit or 10-bit. using current binary standards to decode a message from 1980, some things will match and others will not. |
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Post by uforn on Dec 31, 2010 17:54:52 GMT 1
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Post by isaackoi on Dec 31, 2010 18:15:37 GMT 1
Done abit searching on how to encode / decode Binary Code this is the result google turned up all you do is add the Binary and click decode, now all we need is the full Binary Code nickciske.com/tools/binary.phpI some how get the feeling tho that Binary Decode cant be that easy without some clever software Hi, If you've seen the relevant episode of the "Ancient Aliens" documentary yet, you may have seen that the expert that offered the decoding of the "possible message" is Nick Ciske, i.e. the same chap that devised the binary encoding/decoding tool at the link you posted. After watching the documentary, I contacted him with some questions. I've posted those questions on another forum or two earlier today but rather than post a link (since posting a link to another forum on here may possibly upset someone) I'll simply repost to relevant text below in case they are of interest: After watching the episode, I looked online for information about the chap (Nick Ciske) that used a computer to generate the "possible message" from the binary code. The first search result offered by Google (at the link below) is a tool for encoding and decoding binary code: nickciske.com/tools/binary.phpMmm. This is relevant to one of the questions below (Question 4). You may be particularly interested in the answer to that question. I contacted Nick Ciske about his work on the "possible message" and asked him a few questions. He was kind enough to answers them all. The questions I put (and Nick's answers) are below. Isaac : (1) Could you possibly outline how the "possible message" that appeared on your computer screen was generated? Nick Ciske : 1. I used the same convertor I have on my site. [Isaac - see link above] Isaac : (2) The "possible message" you generated appears to be in English and I wonder if the receiver (and sender) would also have to be aware of any local/human conventions as to the translation of binary code into alpha-numerics (along the lines of the ascii convention)? If so, that would be relevant to the apparent suggestion by one of the other individuals interviewed for the documentary that binary code could be used as some sort of universal language. Nick Ciske : 2. Yes, you'd have to start with an English message. Binary is far from a universal language. I know I talked about that, but it may not have made the episode (I haven't seen it yet). [Isaac - that bit did not make it into the episode and the documentary gave the opposite impression by only showing the bit from the other researcher I mentioned in my question] Isaac : (3) In the documentary, in the frames before the display of the "possible message", your computer screen appears to show "decodes to" followed by several lines of characters. What are those lines? Nick Ciske :3. That's the raw decode of the binary. Isaac : (4) Could one of the online tools relating to binary code (including one that you appear to have developed) have been used in reverse to translate the relevant "possible message" into the binary code? Nick Ciske :4. Yes, that's exactly what my tool does, and the most plausible explanation for how the message was generated. [Isaac - This view was not shown in the documentary. Indeed, Nick's comments as shown in the documentary implied that it would be difficult for somone to generate the relevant text. Nick is shown as saying "Could someone write out 6 pages of binary? Well, probably not. They would need some help or they would have to be some sort of savant or super calculator."] Isaac : (5) Finally, you apparently typed up the relevant pages of binary codes. Is that typed up list of numbers available to others? Nick Ciske :5. Sorry, the producers have asked me not to share it. I have some questions about various others involved in that episode, but want to wrap up those points in a wider look at the Rendlesham incidents. I just need to find the time for that... All the best, Isaac |
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Post by uforn on Dec 31, 2010 18:23:41 GMT 1
Done abit searching on how to encode / decode Binary Code this is the result google turned up all you do is add the Binary and click decode, now all we need is the full Binary Code nickciske.com/tools/binary.phpI some how get the feeling tho that Binary Decode cant be that easy without some clever software Hi, If you've seen the relevant episode of the "Ancient Aliens" documentary yet, you may have seen that the expert that offered the decoding of the "possible message" is Nick Ciske, i.e. the same chap that devised the binary encoding/decoding tool at the link you posted. After watching the documentary, I contacted him with some questions. I've posted those questions on another forum or two earlier today but rather than post a link (since posting a link to another forum on here may possibly upset someone) I'll simply repost to relevant text below in case they are of interest: After watching the episode, I looked online for information about the chap (Nick Ciske) that used a computer to generate the "possible message" from the binary code. The first search result offered by Google (at the link below) is a tool for encoding and decoding binary code: nickciske.com/tools/binary.phpMmm. This is relevant to one of the questions below (Question 4). You may be particularly interested in the answer to that question. I contacted Nick Ciske about his work on the "possible message" and asked him a few questions. He was kind enough to answers them all. The questions I put (and Nick's answers) are below. Isaac : (1) Could you possibly outline how the "possible message" that appeared on your computer screen was generated? Nick Ciske : 1. I used the same convertor I have on my site. [Isaac - see link above] Isaac : (2) The "possible message" you generated appears to be in English and I wonder if the receiver (and sender) would also have to be aware of any local/human conventions as to the translation of binary code into alpha-numerics (along the lines of the ascii convention)? If so, that would be relevant to the apparent suggestion by one of the other individuals interviewed for the documentary that binary code could be used as some sort of universal language. Nick Ciske : 2. Yes, you'd have to start with an English message. Binary is far from a universal language. I know I talked about that, but it may not have made the episode (I haven't seen it yet). [Isaac - that bit did not make it into the episode and the documentary gave the opposite impression by only showing the bit from the other researcher I mentioned in my question] Isaac : (3) In the documentary, in the frames before the display of the "possible message", your computer screen appears to show "decodes to" followed by several lines of characters. What are those lines? Nick Ciske :3. That's the raw decode of the binary. Isaac : (4) Could one of the online tools relating to binary code (including one that you appear to have developed) have been used in reverse to translate the relevant "possible message" into the binary code? Nick Ciske :4. Yes, that's exactly what my tool does, and the most plausible explanation for how the message was generated. [Isaac - This view was not shown in the documentary. Indeed, Nick's comments as shown in the documentary implied that it would be difficult for somone to generate the relevant text. Nick is shown as saying "Could someone write out 6 pages of binary? Well, probably not. They would need some help or they would have to be some sort of savant or super calculator."] Isaac : (5) Finally, you apparently typed up the relevant pages of binary codes. Is that typed up list of numbers available to others? Nick Ciske :5. Sorry, the producers have asked me not to share it. I have some questions about various others involved in that episode, but want to wrap up those points in a wider look at the Rendlesham incidents. I just need to find the time for that... All the best, Isaac Isaac Thank You Very much for this information its really apreciated ;D Welcome to UFORN Happy New Year ;D |
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Post by meldrew on Dec 31, 2010 18:30:51 GMT 1
hey coco hows tricks, as you can see weve been busy, whats your take on this thanks Isac for that info, so it seems a contract has been signed and the binary numbers belong to the producers who won't let it into the public domain. |
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Post by coco on Dec 31, 2010 18:54:41 GMT 1
hey coco hows tricks, as you can see weve been busy, whats your take on this Cheers Meldrew! I haven't seen the episode yet but when you mentioned it (across the street), I read up a bit about it and the article stated the Sgt. was given, with permission, truth serum and placed under hypnosis but was never really given details of the session. Some years later he sought a hypnotist and afterwards made aware of what he recalled during the session. This story keeps expanding beyond the mainstream story given to the public. I'll have to watch the program and hear and see the people, and the details they give to get a feel of the new information. |
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Post by happytohelp on Dec 31, 2010 19:08:15 GMT 1
Done abit searching on how to encode / decode Binary Code this is the result google turned up all you do is add the Binary and click decode, now all we need is the full Binary Code nickciske.com/tools/binary.phpI some how get the feeling tho that Binary Decode cant be that easy without some clever software Hi, If you've seen the relevant episode of the "Ancient Aliens" documentary yet, you may have seen that the expert that offered the decoding of the "possible message" is Nick Ciske, i.e. the same chap that devised the binary encoding/decoding tool at the link you posted. After watching the documentary, I contacted him with some questions. I've posted those questions on another forum or two earlier today but rather than post a link (since posting a link to another forum on here may possibly upset someone) I'll simply repost to relevant text below in case they are of interest: After watching the episode, I looked online for information about the chap (Nick Ciske) that used a computer to generate the "possible message" from the binary code. The first search result offered by Google (at the link below) is a tool for encoding and decoding binary code: nickciske.com/tools/binary.phpMmm. This is relevant to one of the questions below (Question 4). You may be particularly interested in the answer to that question. I contacted Nick Ciske about his work on the "possible message" and asked him a few questions. He was kind enough to answers them all. The questions I put (and Nick's answers) are below. Isaac : (1) Could you possibly outline how the "possible message" that appeared on your computer screen was generated? Nick Ciske : 1. I used the same convertor I have on my site. [Isaac - see link above] Isaac : (2) The "possible message" you generated appears to be in English and I wonder if the receiver (and sender) would also have to be aware of any local/human conventions as to the translation of binary code into alpha-numerics (along the lines of the ascii convention)? If so, that would be relevant to the apparent suggestion by one of the other individuals interviewed for the documentary that binary code could be used as some sort of universal language. Nick Ciske : 2. Yes, you'd have to start with an English message. Binary is far from a universal language. I know I talked about that, but it may not have made the episode (I haven't seen it yet). [Isaac - that bit did not make it into the episode and the documentary gave the opposite impression by only showing the bit from the other researcher I mentioned in my question] Isaac : (3) In the documentary, in the frames before the display of the "possible message", your computer screen appears to show "decodes to" followed by several lines of characters. What are those lines? Nick Ciske :3. That's the raw decode of the binary. Isaac : (4) Could one of the online tools relating to binary code (including one that you appear to have developed) have been used in reverse to translate the relevant "possible message" into the binary code? Nick Ciske :4. Yes, that's exactly what my tool does, and the most plausible explanation for how the message was generated. [Isaac - This view was not shown in the documentary. Indeed, Nick's comments as shown in the documentary implied that it would be difficult for somone to generate the relevant text. Nick is shown as saying "Could someone write out 6 pages of binary? Well, probably not. They would need some help or they would have to be some sort of savant or super calculator."] Isaac : (5) Finally, you apparently typed up the relevant pages of binary codes. Is that typed up list of numbers available to others? Nick Ciske :5. Sorry, the producers have asked me not to share it. I have some questions about various others involved in that episode, but want to wrap up those points in a wider look at the Rendlesham incidents. I just need to find the time for that... All the best, Isaac A great job! Nick Looks like a young lad. He might not know how some punch card registers used to be be able to recite binary one letter at a time. There is a pattern to it and the pattern is based on the English alphabet. However, the same problem I mention above in other post. The code that Nick uses is based on standards that were set in 1986. 6 years after the event. There are similar binary codes that this can be compared to that should decode more. If I see the pages in full context I am sure I can figure it out. My first guess is that its EBCDIC. This Binary was used from the 50s and 60s but military computers used this through out the 70s and into the 80s. I would love to talk to Nick about this and maybe work with him on the new decode. I found his email and sent him a message. |
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Post by isaackoi on Dec 31, 2010 19:28:20 GMT 1
Hi there Happytohelp,
Would you mind if I post your input elsewhere (attributed to you, with a link back your post on the UFO Research Network forum as the source)?
I don't want to step on any toes, but think it would be useful to share your information?
All the best,
Isaac
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Post by uforn on Dec 31, 2010 20:02:24 GMT 1
Hi there Happytohelp, Would you mind if I post your input elsewhere (attributed to you, with a link back your post on the UFO Research Network forum as the source)? I don't want to step on any toes, but think it would be useful to share your information? All the best, Isaac Would that be the ATS Forum Isaac ? |
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Post by happytohelp on Dec 31, 2010 20:06:16 GMT 1
Hi there Happytohelp, Would you mind if I post your input elsewhere (attributed to you, with a link back your post on the UFO Research Network forum as the source)? I don't want to step on any toes, but think it would be useful to share your information? All the best, Isaac It's posted online so its open for re-use in my opinion. However, I would like to be able to represent myself and any research I have done. So, It would be nice to know where it is being posted. I can reference the ISO standards and dates that support my claim that Nick might not have been using the best Binary code. |
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Post by meldrew on Dec 31, 2010 20:43:05 GMT 1
Hi there Happytohelp, Would you mind if I post your input elsewhere (attributed to you, with a link back your post on the UFO Research Network forum as the source)? I don't want to step on any toes, but think it would be useful to share your information? All the best, Isaac It's posted online so its open for re-use in my opinion. However, I would like to be able to represent myself and any research I have done. So, It would be nice to know where it is being posted. I can reference the ISO standards and dates that support my claim that Nick might not have been using the best Binary code. yes I agree, its in the public domain and is probably already posted on lots of other sites as this is a burning hot topic at the moment, I'm pleased isac asked,that shows manners, I saw this thread translated into russian or some foreign language earlier today. |
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Post by isaackoi on Dec 31, 2010 20:46:01 GMT 1
That's one of the places I had in mind, yes.
I've also been discussing the relevant "possible message" with a few people on the Ufologyinuk email discussion list and with a few individuals by email.
Like I said, I would (of course) give credit for anything I repost and give a link back to this forum - but I don't want to step on anybody's toes so just let me know if you have a problem with reposting anything elsewhere.
I'd also be happy to post a link here to any of the other forums upon which I repost anything (again, as long as I'm not stepping on any toes by posting a link here to threads on other discussion forums).
I'm just trying to reduce the amount of reinvention of the wheel that will otherwise waste some people's time and effort.
All the best,
Isaac
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Post by uforn on Dec 31, 2010 20:52:38 GMT 1
That's one of the places I had in mind, yes. I've also been discussing the relevant "possible message" with a few people on the Ufologyinuk email discussion list and with a few individuals by email. Like I said, I would (of course) give credit for anything I repost and give a link back to this forum - but I don't want to step on anybody's toes so just let me know if you have a problem with reposting anything elsewhere. I'd also be happy to post a link here to any of the other forums upon which I repost anything (again, as long as I'm not stepping on any toes by posting a link here to threads on other discussion forums). I'm just trying to reduce the amount of reinvention of the wheel that will otherwise waste some people's time and effort. All the best, Isaac Ive no problem Isaac as long as you link back to UFORN m8 & also keep us in touch with your findings too It would be appreciated... Happy New Year to ALL ;D |
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Post by srtech on Dec 31, 2010 22:47:02 GMT 1
Hello every one I am new here. I have been trying to get what ever info on the binary message that the gentleman supposidly received when he touched the UFO. I used to program in binary back in the early 80's. Binary really is not that hard to figure. You have a bit, byte and word it get more complex as you progress. I would love to get the code he received.
Would love the info when it is released.
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Post by meldrew on Dec 31, 2010 22:59:49 GMT 1
Hello every one I am new here. I have been trying to get what ever info on the binary message that the gentleman supposidly received when he touched the UFO. I used to program in binary back in the early 80's. Binary really is not that hard to figure. You have a bit, byte and word it get more complex as you progress. I would love to get the code he received. Would love the info when it is released. hi srtech welcome to the site, we are trying to get the full data but its not out for the public, so we are just looking at the video and trying to go from there, have a look at what we have here and tell us what you think. |
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Post by isaackoi on Jan 1, 2011 0:04:58 GMT 1
It's posted online so its open for re-use in my opinion. However, I would like to be able to represent myself and any research I have done. So, It would be nice to know where it is being posted. Hi Happytohelp, all, I've posted some of Happytohelp's work (giving credit and links back here) on the ATS discussion forum at the link below -and mentioned it to Ian Ridpath and a few others: www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread645073/pg2#pid10224787My post there ended with the following: "So, the work by "happytohelp" suggests (if that work is correct - and I hope some members of ATS can weight in here) that the conventions used to encode the relevant binary message were not adopted until after 1980 - which would imply either: (a) as has previously been suggested by Jim Penniston, the Rendlesham incident involved a visit by time-travellers (see this page of Ian Ridpath's website : www.ianridpath.com/ufo/officialdenial.htm). (b) or the relevant binary code was not written down until years after the event, i.e. the claims to that it was written shortly after the event are a hoax." Incidentally, John Burroughs has posted a few points in relation to the reaction to the code on the following page of the Rendlesham-incident Forum: rendlesham-incident.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=897&start=30All the best, Isaac |
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Post by meldrew on Jan 1, 2011 0:25:28 GMT 1
It's posted online so its open for re-use in my opinion. However, I would like to be able to represent myself and any research I have done. So, It would be nice to know where it is being posted. Hi Happytohelp, all, I've posted some of Happytohelp's work (giving credit and links back here) on the ATS discussion forum at the link below -and mentioned it to Ian Ridpath and a few others: www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread645073/pg2#pid10224787My post there ended with the following: "So, the work by "happytohelp" suggests (if that work is correct - and I hope some members of ATS can weight in here) that the conventions used to encode the relevant binary message were not adopted until after 1980 - which would imply either: (a) as has previously been suggested by Jim Penniston, the Rendlesham incident involved a visit by time-travellers (see this page of Ian Ridpath's website : www.ianridpath.com/ufo/officialdenial.htm). (b) or the relevant binary code was not written down until years after the event, i.e. the claims to that it was written shortly after the event are a hoax." Incidentally, John Burroughs has posted a few points in relation to the reaction to the code on the following page of the Rendlesham-incident Forum: rendlesham-incident.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=897&start=30All the best, Isaac ok thats fair play, I have a big problem with ian redpath, he is a debunker and earns a living being one, I have worked on woodbridge base, I lived in alderton and tuntsall and I can confirm without a doubt you have given him ammunition, not good, I live in woodbridge ridpath is from essex and now lives in middlesex, he is a twat, I have worked and socialised with people who witnessed this event, for 20 years I have reasearched the rendlesham incident, and I know for a fact it did happen, what we are trying to do is sort out this binary code,. |
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Post by meldrew on Jan 1, 2011 0:48:50 GMT 1
ridpath rattles my cage, he must be rubbing his hands with glee, come on ian , the worlds reading this so come and fight me on the internet, you won't though, you just sit there and snigger, or he will complain and get our truthful site shut down. thats what we have to put up with. happy new year
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Post by sauce on Jan 1, 2011 0:56:18 GMT 1
Hey this is my first post but have been reading and keeping up. Who is red path?
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Post by meldrew on Jan 1, 2011 1:15:27 GMT 1
Hey this is my first post but have been reading and keeping up. Who is red path? ian ridpath is a professional debunker on the Rendlesham incident Re: UFORN @ Rendlesham/Bentwaters Conference 28 De « Reply #12 on Dec 14, 2010, 2:03pm » meldrew Moderator member is online Joined: Sept 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 225 Karma: 1 Sceptics View Ian Ridpath « Reply #13 on Dec 17, 2010, 10:22am » www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htm Introductory note: The Rendlesham Forest UFO case has taken on the mantle of the “British Roswell”, but in truth it is a far more significant event than Roswell. There is scarcely any other UFO case anywhere which can boast such a large number of apparently highly credible witnesses on two separate nights, or such a wide variety of supporting evidence including supposed physical traces, an official memo confirming the events written by a high-ranking USAF officer, a real-time tape recording made during the second night of the sighting by the same USAF officer, a report by local police officers who were called to the scene on two separate occasions, and written statements made by the witnesses to the first night’s events. There are more TV programmes to be found posted on YouTube about this one case than any other, and it regularly appears on lists of ‘best ever’ UFO sightings. Yet much of the popular discussion of the case has centred not on the well-substantiated primary evidence mentioned above, but instead on various tales of doubtful provenance that emerged many years later once the Rendlesham mythology had become well-entrenched. I start these pages by reproducing the first article I wrote on the Rendlesham incident, published early in 1985. Although old it remains valid because it demonstrates where the case stood shortly after it became public knowledge in the early 1980s; hence it is a good place for newcomers to begin reading. The article highlights the main elements of the case and offers explanations for each in turn. It should be emphasized that none of the genuine evidence that has emerged subsequently has invalidated any of these explanations; rather, it has strengthened them. The bulk of this website is devoted to examining that additional evidence. Perhaps most significantly, government documents released since 2001 confirm that the UK’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) never considered the case worthy of a serious investigation, and we now also know why. My article first appeared in The Guardian, a highbrow English newspaper, on 1985 January 5 under the title “A Flashlight in the Forest”. In this web version I have included a few bracketed asides to clarify and update various points, added some explanations to make various references more comprehensible to non-English readers, and included several illustrations. The article was written before the release of the tape-recording made by Lt.Colonel Charles Halt describing the events of the second night as he witnessed them. I have placed on this website the latest version of my own transcript of that tape, compiled with the help of Col Halt himself, which corrects many errors contained in various other versions found in print and online. I have also added a detailed analysis of the events on the tape. In the years since the article first appeared in print I have been able to amplify various points, based in many instances on the additional information contained in Col. Halt’s real-time tape recording or his subsequent interviews. I hope you will find this a suitable balance to some of the more fanciful treatments of this case now in circulation. SUMMARY Although the overall case is complex, the main aspects can be summarized as follows: 1. Security guards saw bright lights apparently descending into Rendlesham Forest around 3 a.m on 1980 December 26. A bright fireball burned up over southern England at the same time. 2. The guards went out into the forest and saw a flashing light between the trees, which they followed until they realized it was coming from a lighthouse (Orford Ness). 3. After daybreak, indentations in the ground and marks on the trees were found in a clearing. Local police and a forester identified these as rabbit scrapings and cuts made by foresters. 4. Two nights later the deputy base commander, Lt Col Charles Halt, investigated the area. He took radiation readings, which were background levels. He also saw a flashing light in the direction of Orford Ness but was unable to identify it. 5. Col Halt reported seeing starlike objects that twinkled and hovered for hours, like stars. The brightest of these, which appeared to send down beams of light, was in the direction of Sirius, the brightest star in the sky. At its most basic, the case comes down to the misinterpretation of a series of nocturnal lights – standard fare for UFOlogy. It is only the concatenation of three different stimuli (fireball, lighthouse, stars) that makes it exceptional. _________________________________________ Read more: uforesearchnetwork.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=anouncements&action=display&thread=1534#ixzz19joqnj2b |
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Post by meldrew on Jan 1, 2011 1:28:08 GMT 1
I have only once ever lowered my self to communicate with this person and that was when he made an accusation that col halt was coloured blind, and he never flew a plane in combat so he is a complete shit. make of that what you will
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Post by sauce on Jan 1, 2011 1:33:39 GMT 1
Lol well mildrew what's Ur take on the binary code? I find this fascinating but why hasn't the code been released if full disclosure is what they want?
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Post by meldrew on Jan 1, 2011 1:55:28 GMT 1
Lol well mildrew what's Ur take on the binary code? I find this fascinating but why hasn't the code been released if full disclosure is what they want? its about money, why dont you join the site, if you had a hidden jem for 30 years then its up for auction say buy it off me you would, I know I would because we're all greedy gits and money for the grandchildren , if someone said to now oi meldrew stop your crusade and we will give you half a million then I would be tempted no I would take the money then blow whistle, lol your dealing with a different thing, I don't think I could ever give up not for anything |
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Post by coco on Jan 1, 2011 18:24:49 GMT 1
I watched the episode last night. It kinda went off on tangent there for a while and then returned to the 'meat and potatoes' of Sgt. Penniston.
Hmm, perhaps he didn't disclose this information for so long as he was worried the message was of a terrible nature? He didn't want to be responsible for bringing a possibly dark message to people? A stick your head in the sand approach?
But as he expressed he has been haunted with dreams for all these years, maybe his conscience and curiosity could stand it no more and so he came forward.
None of us can possibly imagine the experience he had. Maybe he needed enough time for himself to properly deal with this. He's not the only person who has hung to something of potential value (UFO related or otherwise) for a long time before exposing. I know, I know, I'm rationalizing.
Maybe he wanted to wait for the subject to cool down before feeling it safe to disclose. There may been personal security issues, but now with cable TV and the internet making so many things so available to so many, the subject has cropped up again and is quite popular.
With this, he may have felt it safe to finally come forward. After all, if he now has a heart attack, or drowns, or is suicided, et al., the UFO community would then have strong suspicions and point its finger at the usual suspect, investigations could ensue, etc.
Or, as Meldrew opines, he may have done it for the money but felt he had to wait for some reason.
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drdil
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Post by drdil on Jan 1, 2011 20:30:41 GMT 1
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