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Post by uforn on Jan 1, 2011 21:26:21 GMT 1
At the occasion of the 30th anniversary of the Rendlesham Forest Incident. James Penniston responds to the question : "How could you keep this unknown from others for so long before you finally decided to expose these 12 pages of binary code." www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB9pnL4fSH0&feature=player_embedded |
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Post by uforn on Jan 1, 2011 21:28:55 GMT 1
No weve not had a reply yet will let you know as soon as we do  |
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Post by uforn on Jan 2, 2011 2:06:54 GMT 1
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Post by isaackoi on Jan 2, 2011 2:54:29 GMT 1
Hi there, Did Jim respond to or acknowledge this request? I would, of course, be interested in hearing the answer as well. I've resisted the temptation to send Jim a message since he is probably being bombarded with basically the same request by lots of different people. Incidentally, you may be interested in the query I raised on a rather basic point (i.e. how many pages were there) in a post on ATS that I'll report below: Mmm. Hang on a moment... One basic point that I don't think anyone has picked up on so far : How many pages are there? The coverage of the press conference referred to in my OP suggests that there were 12 pages. There are numerous references to "12 pages" in the video kindly posted by Kandinsky above. Just listen to the first minute or so - I'll embed the video below for ease of reference: Now, compare that with the number of pages mentioned in the extracts below from the relevant episode of "Ancient Aliens": At 3 minutes 40 seconds into this extract from the episode, the narrator says that Jim Penniston entrusted his "6 handwritten pages" to a computer programmer (Nick Ciske) for analysis. At 3 minutes 57 seconds into this extract from the episode, Nick Ciske remarks (as I quoted above) on whether someone could write out "6 pages" of binary. Well, I thought this point was interesting... All the best, Isaac |
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Post by citizenk on Jan 2, 2011 6:16:50 GMT 1
Ok maybe I'm just slow but I've been trying to keep up with this and I don't understand the connection between Rendlesham and Hy Brasil... if someone can explain I'd be greatly appreciative.
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Post by uforn on Jan 2, 2011 13:25:04 GMT 1
Ok maybe I'm just slow but I've been trying to keep up with this and I don't understand the connection between Rendlesham and Hy Brasil... if someone can explain I'd be greatly appreciative. The co-ords that came out in the binary code that Jim Penniston wrote down pointed to the location of Hy Brasil. |
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Post by uforn on Jan 2, 2011 13:26:47 GMT 1
Hi there, Did Jim respond to or acknowledge this request? I would, of course, be interested in hearing the answer as well. I've resisted the temptation to send Jim a message since he is probably being bombarded with basically the same request by lots of different people. Incidentally, you may be interested in the query I raised on a rather basic point (i.e. how many pages were there) in a post on ATS at the link below: www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread645073/pg4#pid10230545(I'm not sure whether it is more polite to duplicate the post here or post a link - if you'd like to replace the link with the same post in full, feel free). All the best, Isaac Thanks Isaac id like the post here |
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Post by isaackoi on Jan 2, 2011 14:39:39 GMT 1
Thanks Isaac id like the post here No problem at all - I've modified my post. |
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Post by uforn on Jan 2, 2011 16:13:47 GMT 1
Thanks Isaac id like the post here No problem at all - I've modified my post. Thanks Isaac, it certainly raises more questions and were getting no answers fast. Ive also contacted John Burroughs about the Binary Numbers so hopefully soon well have an answer if well be able to obtain copys of it |
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Post by uforn on Jan 2, 2011 17:22:56 GMT 1
Ok guy's weve recieved a reply from Jim Penniston here's what he said: Quote: Hello meldrew, glad you enjoyed the disclosure meeting. I am told the codes will be posted when available, The codes have been verified and authenticated by three independent sources from around the world. All with the same translation. But feel free to look at them as soon as they are available.
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Well keep you posted as soon as we find out when theyll be made available  |
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Post by meldrew on Jan 2, 2011 19:22:06 GMT 1
I received the above mail yesterday but was offline, it has had my name changed and he said they will be released soon, I have no idea who the other 2 experts are.
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Post by uforn on Jan 3, 2011 2:39:12 GMT 1
Here's some questions put to Jim Penniston from IsaacWith permission from Isaac here's the q's Isaac has put to Jim: Quote: (1) One basic question - how much code is there? I have seen an interview of you in which you refer to having written "like 12 ... 14" pages of code. In the History Channel documentary, the narrator and the computing expert refer to 6 pages. Various other individuals in discussions online in the last few days have also referred to 8 and 9 pages... Can you clarify the position? Were all the pages of code typed up by the History Channel's expert and run through his encoding/decoding process - or only some of the pages?
(2) Most obviously, is it possible now - or will it become possible at some point - to obtain the full code? I'm sure you have already been asked this question repeatedly, which is one reason why I haven't attempted to contact you earlier...
(3) One of the individuals that attended the "Return to Rendlesham" event, Dave Hodrien of the Birmingham UFO Group, has stated "someone has tested the note paper and ink to prove he wrote it back in 1980". Can you confirm that tests have been done? Can you provide any details of the relevant tests and the results - or point me in the right direction if you have also indicated any of these details somewhere?
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Post by uforn on Jan 3, 2011 3:39:12 GMT 1
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Post by shieldpacal on Jan 3, 2011 5:52:36 GMT 1
As I am currently trying to research dancing ufos, I've rather left the 'saucer' stuff behind! My thoughts are based on only my initial reaction to this news:
My first reaction is one of suspicion regarding the circumstances. I agree with Judge360 that it seems an awfully suspicious length of time to break the news on something so important. Why not just mention it to the previous hundred reporters that must have interviewed him? Is he making extra money for this? What are Jim's financial circumstances?
If we could clear the 'money motive' there wouldn't be so much reason to doubt. It's definitely possible to store something as relatively unimportant, only to bring it up later. However, since when is a binary code download from a ufo unimportant?
I must say, this whole thing smells a little 'fishy', which is quite appropriate given the location of Hy Brasil!
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Post by meldrew on Jan 3, 2011 10:14:01 GMT 1
As I am currently trying to research dancing ufos, I've rather left the 'saucer' stuff behind! My thoughts are based on only my initial reaction to this news: My first reaction is one of suspicion regarding the circumstances. I agree with Judge360 that it seems an awfully suspicious length of time to break the news on something so important. Why not just mention it to the previous hundred reporters that must have interviewed him? Is he making extra money for this? What are Jim's financial circumstances? If we could clear the 'money motive' there wouldn't be so much reason to doubt. It's definitely possible to store something as relatively unimportant, only to bring it up later. However, since when is a binary code download from a ufo unimportant? I must say, this whole thing smells a little 'fishy', which is quite appropriate given the location of Hy Brasil! -ShieldPacal so shall I ask jim for bank details so you can check his balance? Peter Robbins at the conference stated that the book Left At Eastgate took him and Larry 9 years to write, and put them both into bankruptcy and don't take up ufology and expect to make any money, In my opinion they have embarked on this disclosure being adamant not to let this happen again, hence the tv production company buying the story and owning copyright, it would then be the tv company who call the shots on when information is disclosed, they would say the worlds waited 30 yrs so whats a few more months, a new documentary is being made titled Return To Rendlesham, information is being held back for this documentary, we are being drip fed info so as to keep us interested, and if jim and john do make money out of this then so what, when has it been unethical to make a buck or two out of ufology, do you think they should skint themselves so you don't challenge them in this way, I personally would screw the production company for everything I could, these guys are human and have children, if you smell a fish then wash your knob  |
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Post by shieldpacal on Jan 3, 2011 13:44:58 GMT 1
Whoa! Relax, brother. You're concentrating on the wrong thing! I'm just contributing to the discussion, not inviting you to check me out.
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Post by meldrew on Jan 3, 2011 15:13:30 GMT 1
Whoa! Relax, brother. You're concentrating on the wrong thing! I'm just contributing to the discussion, not inviting you to check me out. I am very relaxed bro,I think you've read my post in the wrong way, it has information, a question for you, my opinion and a little funny at the end, so I ask you, why does money come into this ? |
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Post by uforn on Jan 3, 2011 16:17:10 GMT 1
Well there's definately money involved since the rights to show the binary were sold to the History channel.
The shear fact that the rights were sold raises questions, he could have easily disclosed everything on this binary at the conference,. It also seems like he's holding some of the pages of this binary back from researchers.
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Post by uforn on Jan 3, 2011 16:29:40 GMT 1
Below are scans from Jims book of the Binary Numbers: Scan of Page 1 binary code written down by former USAF S/Sgt. James Penniston
on what he thinks was the morning of December 27, 1980, after his encounter with
the black, glassy, triangular craft of unknown origin in Rendlesham Forest near
the Capel Green farm field. Image and analysis by Dr. Horace R. Drew and Dr. Mike Reed. Scan of page 2 Scan of page 3 Scan of page 4 Scan of page 5 ASCII 8 Bit Code: Character to Binary provided by scientists. Summary of 5 pages of Jim Penniston's December 1980
hand-written binary code after December 26th encounter with lights and triangular craft of unknown origin in Rendlesham Forest near Capel Green farm field in Woodbridge. Translation by Dr. Horace R. Drew and Dr. Mike Reed on November 11, 2010. Page 1: 0100010101011000 0101000001001100 0100111101010010 01000001010101000 1001001010011110100 11100100111101000 11101001000010101 010100110101000001 0100111001001001 0101010001011001 00110110011011 001101100111000 0011000100110000 00110000 Page 2: 0011010100110010 00110000001110010011 0100001100100011 0101001100110011 001001001110 001100010011001100 11000100110011 00110001001100100011 0110001110010101 0111010000110100 111101001110 010101000100 100100101001110 Page 3: 01010101010011110101 01010101001101 0100011001001111 01010010010100000100 1100010000010100 111001000101010101 00010000010101 001001011001 0100000101000 10001010110010 0000101001110 000111001000 100100001 Page 4: 0100011001001110101010 10101010010010101 000100100001000011 01001111010011110100 01000100100101001 1100100000101010100 0100010101000011010 011110100111001010 1000100100101001110 010101010100111101010 100010101010101000 10101001110 01000011011000101 010100000101001 00100001001000 10101000110010011 1101010010 Page 5: 01000101 Source: www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1802&category=Environment |
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Post by uforn on Jan 3, 2011 16:40:57 GMT 1
Also of note is the location of the co-ords in the Binary. On the History channel they said the co-ords pointed to the location of Hy Brasil of the coast of Ireland, however on Linda Moulton Howe's site the co-ords point to Woodbrige town centre, below is from Lindas site: Latitude and Longitude Location in Binary Code Dr. Drew and Dr. Reed, who analyzed the binary code for m,e provided the image below that shows the latitude and longitude they derived from Jim Penniston's binary code at the Woodbridge town center. Jim Penniston also told the Woodbridge Community Hall audience on December 28, 2010, that he still has several more pages of binary code in his notebook that he has not yet released for public consideration. The yellow highlighted latitude and longitude converges at the town center of Woodbridge, Suffolk County, England. The Ancient Alien latitude and longitude was further west off the coast of
Ireland in the ocean. That difference appears related to the fact that some of Jim Penniston's
zeros and ones were not perfectly clear. Map graphic by Dr. Horace Drew. Source: www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1802&category=Environment |
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Post by uforn on Jan 3, 2011 20:41:32 GMT 1
If they dont start talking soon they gona lose all there supporters.
No one is impressed with the way they dealing with this questions have been asked to Jim and hes passed the buck over to Linda Moulton Howe, which in turn is making this very frustrating and confusing to say the least.
I reckon they gona regret this
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Post by meldrew on Jan 3, 2011 21:06:35 GMT 1
yes you've stole my thunder there mate, I have left a message saying to sort out this contradiction asap, he might be on her case as we speak.
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Post by uforn on Jan 3, 2011 22:37:52 GMT 1
Below are questions and points raised to Jim and the reply from one of Jim's collegue's. Quote: (1) One basic question - how much code is there? I have seen an interview of you in which you refer to having written "like 12 ... 14" pages of code. In the History Channel documentary, the narrator and the computing expert refer to 6 pages. Various other individuals in discussions online in the last few days have also referred to 8 and 9 pages... Can you clarify the position? Were all the pages of code typed up by the History Channel's expert and run through his encoding/decoding process - or only some of the pages?
(2) Most obviously, is it possible now - or will it become possible at some point - to obtain the full code? I'm sure you have already been asked this question repeatedly, which is one reason why I haven't attempted to contact you earlier...
(3) One of the individuals that attended the "Return to Rendlesham" event, Dave Hodrien of the Birmingham UFO Group, has stated "someone has tested the note paper and ink to prove he wrote it back in 1980". Can you confirm that tests have been done? Can you provide any details of the relevant tests and the results - or point me in the right direction if you have also indicated any of these details somewhere? |
I know there were 3 independant tests done with the same results, have all the pages of Binary been decoded?
On the Ancient Aliens episode they said that the co-ords which were decoded pointed to Hy Brasil yet on Linda's site the co-ords point to Woodbridge Town Centre, this is rather confusing. |
Reply Quote: At the conference Jim stated that he was going to have the paper and ink tested which would indicate that at that time it had not been done. They know that this has to be done to silence sceptics which chose not to attend the seminar on the 28th when they could of challenged the eye witnesses face to face.
Jim mentioned there were 12 pages of binary code and they may be made public at some time but the reason for not making them public has nothing to do with financial gain or t.v shows book deals or the like, you will just have to trust me on this one and accept their decision not to publicise them at this time.some of the codes require further scrutiny.
As for the Codes being sent to a university to be decoded. while i understand from Linda's comments at the seminar they had been decoded by two independent experts , any one with basic knowledge of binary codes can decipher them . go to earthfiles.com there you will find the first 5 pages , a simple binary program like Translator binary
and you can encode them yourself.
home2.paulschou.net/tools/xlate/
the code used here is ASC11 , while Jim had no idea what these numbers represented ( Maths never was his strong point ) makes this telepathic download all the more incredible
.The two different sets of coordinates has come about because some of Jims 1's and 0's are hard to define, a 0 mistaken for a 1 in binary can mean all the difference, When i set out to decipher the codes using just screenshots from the ancient alien documentary i found the same discrepancies, but rest assured Jim and John want facts so they will be scrutinised closely, just be patient. I have recorded the full seminar and it will be available here shortly . |
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Post by uforn on Jan 3, 2011 23:41:05 GMT 1
This is off the Bentwaters facebook page, reguarding the co-ords being different on Ancient Aliens to Linada Moulton Howe's website. Quote Jim Penniston: | " I will tell you Ancient Aliens decypher is wrong... Linda has it right on her web site, earthfiles... she had two seperated experts on two different continents, both whom taught college at esteemed universities... I am going with Lindas, because it as match by both, even though they did it seperate... Ancient Aliens has the grid wrong and also left out otherwords decyphered.... " |
Another Quote by Jim: Six pages werer given to Promethous for them to get an expert to see what they say.... I have around six to eight more... the reason i can not tell exactly is the notebook is secured at a safe location. and I have not access to it... but, soon will and will give an exact page count. Promethous also did not have all the translation nor did they show the right location on the grid... which looks to be the town hall in Woodbridge...
I think the message on Lindas Page which is far to important to overlook... look what it says, or even look at what it does not... this is an important piece of evidence, which says something so sensational that many miss the forest for the tree in front of them.
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Post by uforn on Jan 4, 2011 2:43:14 GMT 1
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Post by prettyboyfloyd on Jan 4, 2011 6:48:49 GMT 1
"Why has it taken so long.For the Binary code to resurface" Have yous ever looked at it another way?Maybe its a load of crap?That someone has made up a Binary number code recently.And there just jumping on the bandwagon reunion after 30years.I think the guy who asked Jim Penniston was a very fair & good question.Why would you sit on the Binary code after 30years.With 12 pages long & keep it quiet?And Jim Penniston stupidly replys chewing hes chewing gum like a pig without any manners what so ever.DOESNT MEAN NOTHING TO ME.Wtf is that for an answer?lol.We didnt know what it meant back then?Common sense prevails what a load of bullshiat lol.Anyone after witnessing this Ufo event & then the binary code numbers not long after come into hes head.Which he wrote down supposedly?Would have been right onto it from the very start.Money makes the world go round Meldrew.Its obvious the History channel paid the highest bidd mate.If it has nothing to do with money?Why didnt they tell yous all the day.Yous were all there Meldrew?Keeping people guessing & in suspense.I honestly do believe these guys witnessed a Ufo.But as for the binary code numbers its a load of mathematical crap which is obvious.Didnt Jim Penniston even concider going to a mathematician? back then.When he supposedly wrote down.Anybody in the right mind would have its common sense.Doesnt take an Einstein to figure this out lol.Let the truth be told & keep the bastards honest. Cheers:Prettyboyfloyd  |
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Post by uforn on Jan 4, 2011 17:32:58 GMT 1
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Post by meldrew on Jan 4, 2011 18:33:26 GMT 1
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Weve contacted Jim P asking for the Codes will just have to wait for a reply, feel free to sign up as a member 
