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Post by uforn on Oct 27, 2012 13:54:46 GMT 1
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Post by meldrew on Oct 27, 2012 14:50:58 GMT 1
is there any written info on this ol chap.
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Post by uforn on Oct 27, 2012 15:03:02 GMT 1
Nothing mate but Ive seen it said that the astronomer that was interviewed said it could possibly be a meteorite. Im not convinced of that
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Post by uforn on Oct 28, 2012 12:12:41 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 14:10:59 GMT 1
Hello uforn,
I wonder if anyone good with physics and the speed of a falling object on Earth could determine it's speed perhaps compared to the speed of the plume heading away from the crater's mouth.
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Post by meldrew on Oct 28, 2012 14:22:40 GMT 1
thats my view too, I don't know.
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Post by uforn on Oct 28, 2012 14:25:16 GMT 1
I dont know either mate Kinda lost on this one ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 14:45:00 GMT 1
Hello uforn and meldrew,
Good morning! I did notice in the video a slight bleed-over of the light at the edge of the crater as it was entering. Could have just been a pixellation artifact.
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Post by meldrew on Oct 28, 2012 21:38:05 GMT 1
the examiner has a better translation of the this. UFO descends into live volcano in Mexico
A UFO descended into a live volcano in Mexico, and the amazing event was caught on camera. According to an Oct. 27, 2012 report, this recent event took place over the Popocatepeti Volcano where a glowing, tubular unidentified flying object was seen slowing entering the mouth of the lava-spewing crater. Stephen Hannard ADGUK and Alien Disclosure Group called it " ... an incredible UFO event over the Popocatepeti Volcano in Mexico," and noted "The volcano has been a UFO hotspot for years with hundreds of sightings." The UFO footage that shows the object enter the volcano even made the local news in Mexico. However, just because the video made the news doesn't automatically make everyone a believer. Some comments on YouTube predictably suggest that the UFO video is a fake. However, other comments support the report of the unidentified flying object over the Popocatepeti Volcano and even offer additional details about the incident. For example, one commenter provided dimensions of the object: "The estimated size of this object is 1Km by 200 meters or around 3,200 ft long, and 600 ft wide" while another added these helpful details: "There was a big explosion before it produced an ash plume rising 2 km and caused ash fall up to 7 cm thick." www.examiner.com/article/ufo-descends-into-live-volcano-mexico
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Post by bazmatic on Oct 29, 2012 13:59:52 GMT 1
Watched this vid a few time and thought it was a fake but then I noticed that behind the object the air seems to be disturbed as if it has a trail, unfortunately the picture quality is not good but I am still not convinced it isn't a fake
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Post by meldrew on Oct 29, 2012 14:36:18 GMT 1
Watched this vid a few time and thought it was a fake but then I noticed that behind the object the air seems to be disturbed as if it has a trail, unfortunately the picture quality is not good but I am still not convinced it isn't a fake its usually me who calls fake first if you don't mind, but I still don't know, the consensus out there is about a third think fake, but I don't think the video has enough to go on, there have been UFO and volcano videos before, there was one in Chile last year or the year before, Real UFOs say they have posted before on UFOs and the same volcano.
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Post by uforn on Oct 29, 2012 14:59:12 GMT 1
Just for the record Popocatépetl Volcano has a history of having many UFO sightings in the past. There are quite a few images and indeed videos of UFO's over the volacano
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Post by bazmatic on Oct 29, 2012 14:59:53 GMT 1
Faking the 'tube' going into the volcano is not hard to do but the 'trail' behind is much harder to make, also the object only appears in about 9 frames of video and looks like a degraded copy of the original film (a digital copy would not degrade) which makes me think that it was shot on old style videotape which would account for the 'halo' around the object and the frame rate (24.5 per sec VHS less for the American system NTSCT). It would be nice to see what happened to the eruption over the 15/20 mins. I still don't like it and still think that it's fake! (I think my frame rates are right, but apologise if i'm wrong
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Post by meldrew on Oct 29, 2012 15:11:41 GMT 1
Faking the 'tube' going into the volcano is not hard to do but the 'trail' behind is much harder to make, also the object only appears in about 9 frames of video and looks like a degraded copy of the original film (a digital copy would not degrade) which makes me think that it was shot on old style videotape which would account for the 'halo' around the object and the frame rate (24.5 per sec VHS less for the American system NTSCT). It would be nice to see what happened to the eruption over the 15/20 mins. I still don't like it and still think that it's fake! (I think my frame rates are right, but apologise if i'm wrong baz for senior video researcher the old style video occurred to me too, I thought that it might be a poor region, and the locals use what they have and repair rather than replace. I have not researched this, only watched the vid and read the txt, who took the video, who uploaded it, when was the video taken, who filmed and posted the previous videos, were the previous vidoes huge rods or something else.
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Post by uforn on Oct 29, 2012 15:14:28 GMT 1
Faking the 'tube' going into the volcano is not hard to do but the 'trail' behind is much harder to make, also the object only appears in about 9 frames of video and looks like a degraded copy of the original film (a digital copy would not degrade) which makes me think that it was shot on old style videotape which would account for the 'halo' around the object and the frame rate (24.5 per sec VHS less for the American system NTSCT). It would be nice to see what happened to the eruption over the 15/20 mins. I still don't like it and still think that it's fake! (I think my frame rates are right, but apologise if i'm wrong Im not so sure this is fake baz, I believe it was filmed by a company called Televisa a quick google came up with this. Quote: From what I can gather the footage is from one of their cameras that is located in the mount of somoni close to the Popocapete volcano. So this is probably just a cam to monitor the volcano, hence the low quality.
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Post by bazmatic on Oct 29, 2012 22:50:55 GMT 1
So, if the area was being filmed (24/7!) why can't I find the 1min before or the 1min after the object entered the volcano? Don't get me wrong, I believe in this (once threw a rock at a 30ish silver grey craft hovering 4 ft above the ground on a country road near Winchester U.K late at night, it went CLANG! Glad they didn't throw it back Perhaps I am being too cautious with this vid, BUT, (that was a big but) I still don't like it
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Post by uforn on Oct 29, 2012 23:57:23 GMT 1
So, if the area was being filmed (24/7!) why can't I find the 1min before or the 1min after the object entered the volcano? Don't get me wrong, I believe in this (once threw a rock at a 30ish silver grey craft hovering 4 ft above the ground on a country road near Winchester U.K late at night, it went CLANG! Glad they didn't throw it back Perhaps I am being too cautious with this vid, BUT, (that was a big but) I still don't like it I dont know baz, I cant find anything either, we havnt got a great lot to go off, looks like we will have to sit on this until any further info comes to light
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Post by meldrew on Oct 30, 2012 4:01:55 GMT 1
Popocatepetl Volcano 13 October 27, 2012 Earlier we had reported : Incredible Mass UFO Sighting Photographed Over Kentucky, USA Kentucky UFO Spotted Over Two Other States In USA In latest development, the down below UFO images were captured from the hill Altzomoni over Popocatepetl Volcano on October 26, 2012. Interestingly UFO looks similar to Kentucky UFO, the object's size is estimated at 1000 meters by 200 meters. The Altzomoni is a 4200m volcanic peak located between Popocatepetl and Iztaccihuatl volcanoes north of the Paso de Cortés in Amecameca municipality, State of Mexico. Popocatépetl is an active volcano the second highest peak in Mexico after the Pico de Orizaba (5,636 m/18,491 ft). Popocatépetl is linked to the Iztaccíhuatl volcano to the north by the high saddle known as the Paso de Cortés, and lies in the eastern half of the Trans-Mexican volcanic belt .here are some possible explanations. Anonymous said... Now that's weird. Anonymous said... Well we can rule out something that is close to the camera since it goes either in or behind the volcano. I'm not even sure where to begin with this one. Great clip. Anonymous said... Every time I see stuff like this, I think that it is really possible that aliens are protecting us from big catastrophes which would destroy the earth. Who knows. It is a really fast object. But I dont think it is a missile either. Anonymous said... So first this on October 16, then the same thing was seen on October 26. first time I've been convinced that there are unknowns out there. Or maybe known unknowns.... Anonymous said... The theory of volcanoes and UFOs is that the UFO is refueling with H3O. Something that only volcanoes emit with frequency on earth. Anonymous said... The word Volcano are derived from Vulcan, Vulcans were on Star Trek. Star Trek had aliens. Volcanoes = Aliens. Anonymous said... Translation: The object is calculated to be 200 meters wide and 1 kilometer long. No conclusive evidence as they need some type of confirmation. But she feels confident it's an object with mass and not just pixelation or the sort. Anonymous said... It may be a meteor or some other craft that flew over the volcano. The reason I say this is because closer to the end of the video, you can sort of see the object being distorted a bit, as if it's traveling farther away. In other words, the object is not flying straight down into the volcano but rather flies over and behind it. Anonymous said... Just saw a craft fly over in North East Arkansas that looked just like the "paperclip" that has been reported. Either it was extremely large or extremely low to the ground, but still high enough to go over the trees. I was putting air in my tires when I saw a reflection on my car of a tubular object moving overhead. I looked up and saw a large object that was either highly reflective or emanated it's own light. The time here is 5:26PM and I saw the object around 5:15PM. There was no contrail and no sound. It traveled a perfectly horizontal path across the sky. Moments later, two jets that were starting to come into view from opposite perpendiculars to the object turned in the sky towards the direction the object was heading, both with contrails and both were audible. Anonymous said... The footage looks incredible. Can someone translate whatever was being said in the video? Who captured this footage? It looks like the recording device was some kind of a live camera pointed towards the volcano which makes it even more intriguing. Anonymous said... anonymousTranslation: There's really nothing much being said, just that it was captured with a fixed camera that is there to permanently monitor volcano activity, and that the ufo sighting happened while there was a major volcanic exhalation. Also that it's about 1 km long and 200 meters wide and speeding faster than an airplane. The expert they interview says it's an interesting phenomena but basically gives no explanation or conclusion. Anonymous said... Rock spewed from volcano returning back down, as gravity does. Just so happens it falls within camera point of attack. It fell behind volcano. Simple Anonymous said... Japan 2011 www.youtube.com/watch?v=t42cacNp_EM&feature=youtube_gdata_playerwww.ufo-blogger.com/2012/10/kentucky-ufo-spotted-in-mexico-while.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ufo_blogger+%28UFO-Blogger+Uncover+The+UFO+Truth%29
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Post by dbh on Oct 30, 2012 15:06:01 GMT 1
The best information I have seen up till know with regards to the UFOs spotted over KY comes from Linda Moulton Howe. - source www.earthfiles.comThe link below is her full report with several very good pictures of the UFO spotted in KY. www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2028&category=EnvironmentWhile I can see the potential connection between the two sightings, from the pictures, they appear to be different. However, these are stationary stills and I am unclear what these things would look like had they been moving.
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Post by uforn on Oct 30, 2012 15:47:06 GMT 1
The best information I have seen up till know with regards to the UFOs spotted over KY comes from Linda Moulton Howe. - source www.earthfiles.comThe link below is her full report with several very good pictures of the UFO spotted in KY. www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2028&category=EnvironmentWhile I can see the potential connection between the two sightings, from the pictures, they appear to be different. However, these are stationary stills and I am unclear what these things would look like had they been moving. Hi dbh Ive seen this report by Linda and my first thoughts were weather balloon. But there is another explanation for this sighting, and that is its a toy. Quote: A UFO seen earlier this month over Kentucky, Virginia and Tennessee has been tentatively identified by a popular website in the United Kingdom. According to information made available on Oct. 26, 2012, the UFO may have been nothing more than a child's toy that retails for approximately $15. To be specific, the unidentified flying object that was spotted by thousands of witnesses across three states was nothing more than a solar-powered airship, according to The Daily Mail.
The toy measures more than 26 feet in length. It is made from "high-density, lightweight matte black films [that] reacts to the heat from the sun and gets bigger as it fills with air."
The impressive airship can fly as high as 30,000 feet. However, amateur astronomer Allen Epling, who captured the strange UFO on video, claimed that the object he saw was soaring a whopping 100,000 feet off the ground, far higher than the toy's capabilities.
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Post by meldrew on Oct 30, 2012 20:09:07 GMT 1
A much longer video has surfaced of the strange Kentucky UFO that caused such a commotion last week along with the man who shot the footage. Apparently, the bizarre transparent craft was stationary for 2 hours while he filmed it through a telescope. That sort of deflates the prevailing giant balloon theory, as we are not aware of any balloon that is capable of remaining completely motionless even if tightly tied down. We are starting to wonder if this UFO was actually a living creature possibly related to "Sky Fish" (Rods), if there isn't a more prosaic explanation for this bizarre sighting. www.anomalist.com/www.ghosttheory.com/2012/10/29/video-pike-county-ufo-update-telescope-footagefor the video and opinion.
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Post by uforn on Oct 31, 2012 14:55:44 GMT 1
We are starting to wonder if this UFO was actually a living creature possibly related to "Sky Fish" (Rods), if there isn't a more prosaic explanation for this bizarre sighting. Skyfish or Rods have been debunked as insects. www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CCJwC8rwQ
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Post by uforn on Nov 1, 2012 14:23:45 GMT 1
Here's some more information and opinions of this sighting: Quote: MEXICO (ANSA News Agency) An alleged elongated object entered the crater of the Popocatepetl Volcano, 65 kilometers distant from the Mexican capital, causing astonishment and confusion among experts and the public alike. On October 25 at 20:45 local time, a camera from the TELEVISA TV network that monitors activity in the giant volcano captured the image and immediately unleashed a firestorm of discussions. The object's measurements would have been 1 kilometer long by 200 meters wide, flying at a speed greater than that of an airliner, according to scientific estimates.
However, the majority of experts, like astronomer Julieta Fierro, a renowned science popularizer, took a more skeptical stance. Fierro believes that it cannot be said for sure if the object fell within the crater or if it is in fact "a galaxy 20,000 million light years away. It could be something incredibly distant moving behind the Earth," she said. A similar opinion was voiced by William Lee, a member of the Mexican Academy of Sciences, who said it was "a video error, given that there was no visible interaction between the object and the atmosphere and gases emanating from the volcano." Raul Rivera of the Servicio Meteorologico Nacional (National Weather Service) said it was "an object whose composition is simply unknown to us." [A note from Prof. Ana Luisa Cid: "Regarding the story of the cylindrical UFO in the volcano, it is worth noting that it was recorded by the TELEVISA camera (not the same as the one used by CENAPRED). I am pointing this out because some researchers have published erroneous reports, thinking it is the same camera with the same specifications. They further compound their error by saying CENAPRED takes photos every 30 seconds and then joins them to form a time lapse. The truth is that "CENAPRED used an Pelco brand remotely controlled analog camera. It is a video camera that takes pictures every 2 seconds approximately before placing them on the Internet." This information was directly provided to me by Ing. Gilberto Castelán, responsible for monitoring maintenance and instrumentation.") www.ufodigest.com/article/more-popocatepetl-cylinder |
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Post by uforn on Nov 1, 2012 14:26:42 GMT 1
Quote: However, the majority of experts, like astronomer Julieta Fierro, a renowned science popularizer, took a more skeptical stance. Fierro believes that it cannot be said for sure if the object fell within the crater or if it is in fact "a galaxy 20,000 million light years away. It could be something incredibly distant moving behind the Earth," she said. |
LOL that theory is one of the best Ive ever heard ;D
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Post by dbh on Nov 1, 2012 14:37:13 GMT 1
That was my same reaction. Lets assume for a moment, it was something passing in the background, would that not be a bigger issue? imagine the size of such an object, 20,000 million light years away. Also the speed!
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Post by meldrew on Nov 1, 2012 14:54:03 GMT 1
I thought the same, it would have been picked up world wide, the only thing I can think of is an earth light or some natural rare phenomenon.
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Post by uforn on Nov 1, 2012 15:06:27 GMT 1
As I said in an earlier post, this Volcano has had many UFO sightings in the past. What we are seeing here in the video is probably a result of motion blur and framerate of the camera. Below if an image of a UFO over the Volcano in Dec 2000, possibly took with the same camera ? The timelapse on this is much more noticeable.
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Post by meldrew on Nov 1, 2012 18:33:05 GMT 1
yeah but, what is making the blur, the camera is securely positioned is it not, so we can rule out camera shake UNLESS there was an earth tremor at the time of filming, earth lights are released due to the stresses on the bedrock, earth light falling back to earth, cased solved and closed ;D
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Post by uforn on Nov 1, 2012 18:37:30 GMT 1
What is making the blur meldrew ? (I thought you knew this) Its a mixture of the framerate of the camera and the speed of the object. Edit to add wiki link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_blur
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Post by meldrew on Nov 1, 2012 18:48:33 GMT 1
What is making the blur meldrew ? Its a mixture of the framerate of the camera and the speed of the object. until the OBJECT is Identified by anyone, then I say it's earth light. its the best I can come up with, its better that the far far away comet, I'm not a professional but it makes more sense than their clap trap, I don't think it's a solid object. why don't you have a stab judge, you'll get splinters in your arse if you keep sitting on the fence lol
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