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Post by ronologic on Sept 28, 2016 3:48:51 GMT 1
georgek, I am presently reading, "If the Universe Is Teeming with Aliens ... WHERE IS EVERYBODY?: Fifty Solutions to the Fermi Paradox and the Problem of Extraterrestrial Life". I think this would be a good book for you to read. Actually, I think this would be a good book for everyone to read.
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Post by ronologic on Jul 6, 2016 2:08:22 GMT 1
barry, Have you read/researched this and if you have what are your thoughts on this. ron
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Post by ronologic on Jun 25, 2016 0:19:51 GMT 1
Thank you.
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Post by ronologic on Jun 25, 2016 0:18:18 GMT 1
Welcome aboard georgek. ron UFORN GLOBAL MODERATOR
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Post by ronologic on Jun 21, 2016 0:20:35 GMT 1
Uforn, Although Gordon Cooper does state he is ..."not an experienced UFO professional researcher."' I believe his report that can be read in his book or watched on you tube is credible because all G. Cooper is doing is relating what he saw and not trying to infer what or who was driving the vehicles he saw, as opposed to Doty, and we all now know about that mess.
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Post by ronologic on Jun 19, 2016 23:43:09 GMT 1
uforn, I do believe whatever ex-military members write or say. As we(yes, I also include myself here) have all taken a loyalty pledge that included following orders whether active duty or not, we are still duty bound to silence. So, whenever a military person discloses ANY info about ANY subject, UFO related or not, that person has been ORDERED to disclose the information. Gordon Cooper did not wake up one sunny morning and decide to write a book. That decision was made for him. You say you believe what ex-military members write or say, what about Richard Doty ? he is well known for spreading disinformation. You have me on Doty.
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Post by ronologic on Jun 14, 2016 1:13:17 GMT 1
uforn, I do believe whatever ex-military members write or say. As we(yes, I also include myself here) have all taken a loyalty pledge that included following orders whether active duty or not, we are still duty bound to silence. So, whenever a military person discloses ANY info about ANY subject, UFO related or not, that person has been ORDERED to disclose the information. Gordon Cooper did not wake up one sunny morning and decide to write a book. That decision was made for him.
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Post by ronologic on May 9, 2016 22:13:38 GMT 1
uforn, I don't know what this means, but... "Explanation of the Code "6EQUJ5" On the Wow! Computer Printout By Jerry Ehman [The Wow! Signal] The photo of the computer printout of the Wow! source shows not only my handwritten comment ("Wow!") but also the circling of the 6 characters "6EQUJ5" lined up vertically in a column. What is the meaning of this code? Each of the first 50 columns of the computer printout shows the successive values of intensity (or power) received from the Big Ear radio telescope in each channel (10 kHz wide) in successive 12-second intervals (10 seconds was used for actual sampling and another approximately 2 seconds was needed for computer processing). In order to conserve space on the printout, Bob Dixon and I decided to use a coding method that would result in only one alphanumeric (i.e., either alphabetic or numeric) character for each intensity. The computer was programmed to keep a continuously-updated account for each channel of a baseline value and an rms value (rms stands for "root mean square", which is equivalent to the statistical term "standard deviation"). The actual intensity (after the baseline value was subtracted out) was then divided by the rms value to obtain a scaled value (i.e., the number of standard deviations above the baseline). Since there was space for only one character to be displayed, we decided to take only the integer value of this scaled intensity for values in the range 0 to 9.999... . The truncated value of zero was printed as a blank (space). The truncated value of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 were printed directly. For scaled intensities of 10 to 35, inclusive, the capital letters of the alphabet were used. Thus a truncated value of 10 was printed as an "A", 11 as a "B", etc. If the scaled intensity ever got to 36.0 or above, the program would simply start over again at zero (e.g., a truncated value of 38 would be printed the same as that of 38-35=3, namely a "3"). Thus, the "6EQUJ5" code in channel 2 means successive intensities as follows: 6 --> the range 6.0 - 6.999... E --> the range 14.0 - 14.999... Q --> the range 26.0 - 26.999... U --> the range 30.0 - 30.999... J --> the range 19.0 - 19.999... 5 --> the range 5.0 - 5.999... The value "U", meaning the range 30.0 - 30.999..., was the largest value ever seen. We do not believe that the intensity ever got above 31.0 and hence no rollover (subtraction of 35) ever occurred. It would have been easy to spot in a sequence of 6 or 7 numbers that should follow the antenna pattern of the telescope. The six successive values in channel 2 fit the antenna pattern of Big Ear very well. I have also done a correlation analysis of the six data points with the mathematical functions: (1) gaussian = normal curve; and (2)(sin(x)/x)^2. The data fit each of those two functions very well with correlation coefficients of over 0.99 (i.e., almost a perfect fit). I also fit the data to each of the two actual antenna patterns (of the two horns) using the moderately strong radio source OY372. The correlation coefficients were again over 0.99. There was not enough difference between the two correlation coefficients to determine which horn the Wow! source was received in. HOME | SEARCH | FEEDBACK Copyright © 1996-2008 Big Ear Radio Observatory and North American AstroPhysical Observatory. Originally designed by Point & Click Software, Inc. Last modified: February 20, 2008. Source: www.bigear.org/6equj5.htm"
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Post by ronologic on May 9, 2016 21:57:14 GMT 1
metadoom,
I have seen numerous pictures such as this you posted and it always turned out to be an insect flying close to the lens. Is this what is in the picture? I don't know but I am quite certain that is a good possibility.
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Post by ronologic on May 9, 2016 21:51:08 GMT 1
barry,
One can read numerous books written by U.S. ex-military persons. These ex-military people MUST have governmental clearances to write what they saw and know, such as "A Leap of Faith" by Gordon Cooper. Buy it. Read it. Everything UFO related in that book was cleared by the U.S. Military. It is believable.
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Post by ronologic on Mar 26, 2016 2:03:33 GMT 1
The truth IS out there.
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Post by ronologic on Jan 17, 2016 18:23:09 GMT 1
uforn, Is this along the lines of the the book, "Project beta..." where the manner in which Paul Bennewitz was destroyed by the US Govt.?
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Post by ronologic on Dec 20, 2015 2:03:54 GMT 1
"In 2010 I began writing a blog, The UFO Trail.". UFORN, have you checked out this site?
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Post by ronologic on Oct 13, 2015 19:08:37 GMT 1
So many mixed opinions on this does anyone here have one,? Those that have visited this planet over the years have so many different identities you would think if they ment harm they wouldn't care about revealing themselves, but if intentions are positive then why keep up the cover up, Welcome aboard starlord. "...why keep up the cover up."? My guess is for governmental and religious reasons. I am enclosing something for you to read, and hopefully this will give you some guidance as for one manner in which to answer your question, although it is not the only answer. Again, welcome aboard. Are the world’s religions ready for E.T.? In 1930, Albert Einstein was asked for his opinion about the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. “Other beings, perhaps, but not men,” he answered. Then he was asked whether science and religion conflict. “Not really, though it depends, of course, on your religious views.” Over the past 10 years, astronomers’ new ability to detect planets orbiting other stars has taken this question out of the realm of philosophy, as it was for Einstein, and transformed it into something that scientists might soon be able to answer. Religions and Extraterrestrial Life book coverRealization that the nature of the debate about life on other worlds is about to fundamentally change led Vanderbilt Professor of Astronomy David Weintraub to begin thinking seriously about the question of how people will react to the discovery of life on other planets. He realized, as Einstein had observed, that people’s reactions will be heavily influenced by their religious beliefs. So he decided to find out what the world’s major religions have to say about the matter. The result is a book titled “Religions and Extraterrestrial Life” (Springer International Publishing) published this month. “When I did a library search, I found only half a dozen books and they were all written about the question of extraterrestrial life and Christianity, and mostly about Roman Catholicism, so I decided to take a broader look,” the astronomer said. As a result, his book describes what religious leaders and theologians have to say about extraterrestrial life in more than two dozen major religions, including Judaism, Roman Catholicism, the Eastern Orthodox churches, the Church of England and the Anglican Communion, several mainline Protestant sects, the Southern Baptist Convention and other evangelical and fundamentalist Christian denominations, the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Seventh Day Adventism and Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons), Islam and several major Asian religions including Hinduism, Buddhism and the Bahá’í Faith. Discovery of planets The remarkable progress that astronomers have made at detecting exoplanets gives the issue of extraterrestrial life a new sense of immediacy. In 2000, astronomers had detected 50 planets orbiting other stars. Today, the number has grown to more than 1,000. If the rate of discovery keeps up its current pace, astronomers will have identified more than a million exoplanets by the year 2045. “If even one exoplanet shows signs of biological activity – and those signs should not be hard to detect, if living things are present – then we will know Earth is not the only place in the universe where life exists,” Weintraub points out. “Although it is impossible to prove a negative, if we have not found any signs of life after a million exoplanets have been studied, then we will know that life in the universe is, at best, exceedingly rare.” Public opinion polling indicates that about one fifth to one third of the American public believes that extraterrestrials exist, Weintraub reports. However, this varies considerably with religious affiliation. Belief in extraterrestrials varies by religion 55 percent of Atheists 44 percent of Muslims 37 percent of Jews 36 percent of Hindus 32 percent of Christians Of the Christians, more than one third of the Eastern Orthodox faithful (41 percent), Roman Catholics (37 percent), Methodists (37 percent), and Lutherans (35 percent) professed belief in extraterrestrial life. Only the Baptists (29 percent) fell below the one-third threshold. David Weintraub lecturing Author David Weintraub (Daniel Dubois / Vanderbilt) Asian religions would have the least difficulty in accepting the discovery of extraterrestrial life, Weintraub concluded. Some Hindu thinkers have speculated that humans may be reincarnated as aliens, and vice versa, while Buddhist cosmology includes thousands of inhabited worlds. Weintraub quotes passages in the Qur’an that appear to support the idea that spiritual beings exist on other planets, but notes that these beings may not practice Islam as it is practiced on Earth. “Islam, like other faiths, has fundamentalist and conservative traditions. All Muslims, however, likely would agree that the prophetically revealed religion of Islam is a set of practices designed only for humans on earth,” Weintraub wrote. Weintraub found very little in Judaic scriptures or rabbinical writings that bear on the question. The few Talmudic and Kabbalistic commentaries on the subject do assert that space is infinite and contains a potentially infinite number of worlds and that nothing can deny the existence of extraterrestrial life. At the same time, Jews don’t believe the discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence would have much effect on them. He quotes a Jewish anthropologist and scholar who has addressed this issue and concluded that the relationship beween Jews and God would not be affected in the slightest by “the existence of other life forms, newly discovered scientific realities or pan-human behavioral changes.” Christian debate Among Christian religions, the Roman Catholics have done the most thinking about the possibility of life on other worlds, the astronomer discovered. In fact, they have had an on-again, off-again theological debate that has gone on for a thousand years. The crux of the matter is original sin. If intelligent aliens are not descended from Adam and Eve, do they suffer from original sin? Do they need to be saved? If they do, then did Christ visit them and was he crucified and resurrected on other planets? “From a Roman Catholic perspective, if sentient extraterrestrials exist some but perhaps not all such species may suffer original sin and will require redemption,” Weintraub summarizes. The inherent diversity of Protestant denominations, where individuals are encouraged to interpret scripture independently, has led to many conflicting approaches to the question of extraterrestrial intelligence. Weintraub determined that the views of Lutheran theologian Paul Tillich appear to represent a viable consensus. Tillich argued that the need for salvation is universal and the “saving power” of God must be everywhere. At the same time, he maintained that God’s plan for human life need not be the same as his plan for aliens. Evangelical and fundamental Christians are most likely to have difficulty accepting the discovery of extraterrestrial life, the astronomer’s research indicates. “…most evangelical and fundamentalist Christian leaders argue quite forcefully that the Bible makes clear that extraterrestrial life does not exist. From this perspective, the only living, God-worshipping beings in the entire universe are humans, created by God, who live on Earth.” Southern Baptist evangelist Billy Graham was a prominent exception who stated that he firmly believes “there are intelligent beings like us far away in space who worship God.” Weintraub also identified two religions – Mormonism and Seventh-day Adventism – whose theology embraces extraterrestrials. In Mormonism, God helps exalt lesser souls so they can achieve immortality and live as gods on other worlds. And, Ellen White, who co-founded Seventh-Day Adventism, wrote that Got had given her a view of other worlds where the people are “noble, majestic and lovely” because they live in strict obedience to God’s commandments. Are we ready? In answer to the question “Are we ready?” Weintraub concludes, “While some of us claim to be ready, a great many of us probably are not… very few among us have spent much time thinking hard about what actual knowledge about extraterrestrial life, whether viruses or single-celled creatures or bipeds piloting intergalactic spaceships, might mean for our personal beliefs [and] our relationships with the divine.” Media Inquiries: David Salisbury, (615) 322-NEWS david.salisbury@vanderbilt.edu Source: news.vanderbilt.edu/2014/09/religion-ready-for-et/
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Post by ronologic on Sept 23, 2015 1:23:57 GMT 1
NASA captures remarkeble object on Mars VideoI'm going to need a lot more than a fuzzy picture for evidence of life on Mars.
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Post by ronologic on Sept 23, 2015 1:19:38 GMT 1
I wonder that NASA did find something very cool, it looks like structures, especially the donut-shaped thing , but the image was taken from afar, so kinda hard to tell. Anyone any idea ? or is it just an illisuion? video linkNatural formations. Some people are so desperate for any sign of alien/ancient life they will see the most common EARTHLY objects anywhere out there.
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Post by ronologic on Sept 5, 2015 14:47:16 GMT 1
ivy, I do not believe in the existence of things that go bump in the dark, ie., "inter-dimensional entities (aka demons).", and will not believe until scientifically proven otherwise.
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Post by ronologic on Sept 2, 2015 0:57:17 GMT 1
Will do Ron, but it will take a while..... I can wait.
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Post by ronologic on Aug 30, 2015 15:28:30 GMT 1
barry,
Please PM all info and include drawings if possible.
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Post by ronologic on Aug 30, 2015 1:07:18 GMT 1
ash, Welcome aboard. Thanks for giving us a look. I would have no idea what would cause the "...triangular formation..." you describe. Very interesting. Any way, I hope you find your visits to here informative.
Again, welcome aboard.
ron UFORN Global Moderator
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Post by ronologic on Aug 30, 2015 0:59:25 GMT 1
That's a pretty distressing account to read, try to stay calm. I hed experiences similar to yours, but different. They think that they are not hurting you, they don't want to hurt you but they don't understand. Only time will sort this out. I would be interested in your age when this all started and your age now (you can message me if you wish) and what part of the world you live in as abduction changes with the country. Keep safe and try to think positive. Baz barry, I don't recall anything you posted about your experience. Would you mind relating your experience, and if you have posted it here would you please direct me to the thread? ron
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Post by ronologic on Aug 28, 2015 2:14:16 GMT 1
Welcome aboard drell777. I'm sure you will find a large amount of useful information here, and also learn to recognize a hoax, of which there are many.
Again, welcome aboard.
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Post by ronologic on Aug 22, 2015 21:51:23 GMT 1
Police say 7 dead after jet in UK airshow crashes into road LONDON (AP) — A military jet taking part in a British airshow crashed into a busy main road, killing seven people and injuring more than a dozen others, police said Saturday. The Hawker Hunter fighter jet, which was participating in the Shoreham Airshow near Brighton in southern England, hit several vehicles on a nearby road as it crashed Saturday afternoon. Witnesses told local TV that the jet appeared to have crashed when it failed to pull out of a loop maneuver. West Sussex Police said seven died at the scene and one patient with life-threatening injuries was taken to the hospital. A further 14 people were treated for minor injuries. News video and photographs showed a fireball erupting near trees and huge plumes of thick black smoke rising. A witness, Stephen Jones, told the BBC that the pilot had just begun his display. "He'd gone up into a loop and as he was coming out of the loop I just thought, you're too low, you're too low, pull up. And he flew straight into the ground either on or very close to the A27, which runs past the airport," Jones said. The force said all the casualties were believed to have occurred on the road, and no one on the airfield was believed injured. It was not known whether the pilot was able to eject. The road was closed in both directions Saturday. Crashes at British airshows are rare, but in 2007 the pilot of a World War II Hurricane died at the Shoreham Airshow after performing an unplanned barrel-roll. Source: news.yahoo.com/single-seat-jet-crashes-uk-airshow-several-casualties-141659288.html============================================================================ I would like to express, on behalf of The UFO Research Network Administration and all members, our heartfelt condolences to the families on the tragic loss of their loved ones. Again, we extend our deepest sympathies to all of the friends and families during this period of mourning. ron UFORN Global Moderator
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Post by ronologic on Jul 8, 2015 3:03:04 GMT 1
Vermyn, a large amount of the stuff posted here I don't believe. The thing is this site is designed to give people a place and reason to research the UFO phenomenon, and hope fully find the answers to their questions.
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Post by ronologic on Jun 23, 2015 3:22:40 GMT 1
Yep. That 99.9% of this stuff is fake and there is no evidence to support any of it. In the time I have been investigating this stuff I have found nothing that would come close to convince me that UFO's are real. I will keep digging but as of now all they are is urban legends heaped on top of bias conformation. UFO's are Real its whether or not they are Alien. There are plenty of case's that cannot be explained. If I remember right there were 701 UFO case's in Project Bluebook that were unexplained. Well, let's get out our copies of "Project Blue Book' and see how many were classified as unexplained. I'm quite certain you have a copy.
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Post by ronologic on Jun 22, 2015 0:03:15 GMT 1
Ah, a lesson to be learned. This is good.
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Post by ronologic on Jun 22, 2015 0:00:53 GMT 1
Interesting article but doesn't even come close to explain the sightings(4)I've had.
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Post by ronologic on Jun 21, 2015 4:17:59 GMT 1
Welcome aboard sherie. Sometime a person can have a dream so vivid it seems real. Everyone experiences them, myself included, and I believe this is what you experienced. I've also experienced waking during sleep paralysis and realized what it was and what it was not, and it was not due to "them" messing with me. As far as your sore throat, numerous reasons exist for such a thing, none relating to aliens. again, welcome aboard.
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Post by ronologic on Jun 21, 2015 4:04:56 GMT 1
As I have written so many times on this site; Europa! Go to the water and life WILL be found. Always has. Always will be. And that is my educated professional opinion.
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Post by ronologic on Jun 21, 2015 4:00:10 GMT 1
welcome aboard matt. Thanks for giving us a look. I would advise against letting your imagination run away with you on this. The biggest problem I've noticed is that if one cannot explain an event to ones' liking the event is automatically attributed to the LGMs. Take care and do not fall into that trap. As I have written, why abduct when so many are willing to go, including me? So, put your fears to rest. Again, welcome aboard.
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