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Post by uforn on Feb 3, 2011 19:04:17 GMT 1
That video is posted on the first page Loz
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Post by uforn on Feb 3, 2011 20:02:35 GMT 1
Below is the FOX News report on this, i was wondering when Nick Pope would stick his beak in A glowing orb filmed hovering over the skyline of Jerusalem has left UFO experts dumbfounded. The circular object was seen descending slowly over the holy city's iconic Dome of the Rock before flickering and shooting skyward like a rocket. Similar clips have been seen before and debunked as hoaxes. But this latest sighting has proved more difficult to dismiss -- as it was recorded from four different perspectives. Some UFO enthusiasts believe the videos -- which have taken the Internet by storm -- are final proof that aliens exist, while others say the unidentified object was the Hebrew god Elohim. Adding to the mystery is the fact that flying over the Dome of the Rock landmark -- an ancient Islamic shrine -- is forbidden. Two witnesses at the Armon Hanatziv panoramic lookout near Mount Zion filmed the object at 1am on Saturday. A little after one minute into the clip, the object descends slowly, almost to ground level. The craft hovers there for a short while and then flickers before shooting upwards at an incredible speed. Former Ministry of Defense UFO investigator Nick Pope said: "If these are real, they are some of the most incredible videos ever shot. "If they are not, then this is a very well-planned and coordinated hoax designed to eliminate elements of doubt. "The way it shoots up into the sky suggests it is unmanned, because no living thing could survive those kinds of G-forces. "We know the Israeli army has some very high-tech drones at its disposal. If this is one, it is one of the most advanced pieces of technology created by man." Another set of observers also uploaded their mobile phone footage to YouTube on Saturday. They wrote: "Have fun debunking this one." In their video, the American tourists can be heard saying: "We've seen them in Mississippi like this." Two other clips filmed from different viewpoints were posted online. Skeptics have noted the views come from perspectives that could make nearby objects seem farther away and faster-moving. Others say the whole thing was faked and have prepared several alternative versions of the videos which they say prove they are not real. These include stabilized versions in which the brightness and contrast have been increased, which they claim highlights a major flaw of perspective. Another is motion-tracked, and apparently shows the UFO "bouncing around like crazy" -- which, say the sceptics, shows the makers had trouble inserting it into the scene. Source: www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/03/ufo-jerusalems-dome-rock-baffles-experts/
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Post by uforn on Feb 3, 2011 20:05:15 GMT 1
On the FOX News website as well as the other News sites thats linked in this thread, they are all showing video # 3, which is clearly a HOAX!
Why arnt they showing video's 1,2 and 4 ?
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Post by uforn on Feb 3, 2011 20:51:11 GMT 1
This below was posted on ATS, its weather cam views of the city and clearly shows a light in the sky at the same time as the video's. Quote: There is a weather cam in Jerusalem that points north and shows the old city with the dome to the right. The cam is located here:
www.02ws.com/station.php?section=pic_movie_archive.php〈=0
This is a look into the north horizon of Jerusalem. You can see Malcha at the left side and all the way to the old city at the right.
This is a still shot of a typical night. Nothing exciting going on here.
A google map reveals the dome as indicated by the (A) and the cam is located just south of the Armenian Quarter.
Going to the 02ws site, you can enter in any date from 2008 in the following format: 28-01-2011 I did this for every day of January. Nothing exciting until I came to 26-01-2011 AND 28-01-2011. Instead of starting with the 26th, I would like to show you what I found on the 28th first...
January 28 @ 12:57 am
January 28 @ 4:18 am
Now, remember I said I went through everyday of January to see if this is a common occurrence. Perhaps a street light, a yard light, or some kind of light on a timer but nothing. Not even a plane in the sky. I was expecting to see this light appear at least once but nadda. Yet, this light appears at the exact same time the witnesses say and at the exact same location. Coincidence? Maybe, but I don't believe in coincidences. i actually saw it flash in there about three times but I couldn't pause it quick enough.
I know this post may seem weak but until you go through every day I did and then suddenly see this appear in the correct location and time then I have to wonder hmmmm.
Now this tiny little light may not seem to be all that significant. But, it is and I'll tell you why... This light was captured at exactly 3 minutes to 1 am. I went back to 26-01-2011 and this is what I found:
Notice the time stamp on the picture? 12:57, am two days before the sighting and to the exact same minute and location.
No where in all the days of January except the 26th and 28th does this light appear.
But wait! there's more...
What is this thing doing hanging in the air on the afternoon of the 26th?
So yes, we have other pictures taken from a cam in Jerusalem that can not be faked. |
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVXQjpS-6XY&feature=player_embeddedSource Flysolo: www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread658652/pg23
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Post by mike69 on Feb 3, 2011 22:53:58 GMT 1
great work ty
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Post by uforn on Feb 3, 2011 23:00:08 GMT 1
great work ty The above work on the weather cams isnt mine mike, its Flysolo's of ATS. But i did go to the trouble and look at the cams the images were taken from to see for myself. Its very compelling info, as it backs up the video's. I first thought this was a Hoax! or Viral Marketing, but after all the other evidence thats come to light, im definately on the fence with this one
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Post by mike69 on Feb 3, 2011 23:09:00 GMT 1
i must go work ;(( see you later ,bye.
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Post by meldrew on Feb 3, 2011 23:49:35 GMT 1
lol judge I sent you a msg saying I thought viral marketing but am sitting on the fence, the research from flysolo is good work, we need more of that
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Post by uforn on Feb 4, 2011 0:18:37 GMT 1
lol judge I sent you a msg saying I thought viral marketing but am sitting on the fence, the research from flysolo is good work, we need more of that Yes is good work but someone contacted the manger of the weather cam to find out if that is where the dome is but it cant be seen in that pic, so i guess that chucks that one in the bin. Im trying to remember where ive seen this as ive been on tonnes of sites
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Post by uforn on Feb 4, 2011 0:26:27 GMT 1
Found it: Quote: Thu 22:20James: I have a question, where is the live weather cam located and which direction is it pointed. Also, is the camera able to see the Dome of the rock from it\'s current location? if so, where is it located in the image? Thanks
-- Thu 22:31 02WS Manager: It is located at south Jerusalem looking north. The dome of the rock is not seen, but it is located at the right (east) part of the picture.
-- Thu 23:10 James: I have one last question, I observed a light that appeared in the archive videos for the webcam "All-day pictures in a clip", video date 28-01-2011. This light appears at 2011-01-27 23:57:56, 2011-01-28 00:57:59 and 2011-01-28 04:18:06. This light blinks and disappears. You can observe it in that video, and it appears in the right middle location of that video. I was curious about the lights location, could it have appeared directly above the Dome of the rock? I know this is a odd question but I thank you for your help
-- Thu 23:23 02WS Manager: As I sad, the dome of the rock is not seen in the picture. So, it can not be directly above it.
-- Thu 23:54 James: One last question, Is the dome of rock not in the cameras point of view because of objects which would be obstructing it (infront of it)? or is it because the dome of rock is offscreen, not in the cameras field of view? Thank you so much! -- Fri 01:01 Is the camera: in Gilo neighborhood looking north? |
So that most definately chucks the weather cam evidence in the bin. Source: www.02ws.com/station.php?lang=0
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Post by meldrew on Feb 4, 2011 1:23:51 GMT 1
Israeli media are linking this, Dec 16 video taken at the wailing wall, with the flashing orb, this in my opinion is very impressive, unless its a fake of course.
report This strange ball of light was caught on tape by a tourist visiting the Wailing or crying Wall in Jerusalem, Israel. On the same day this film was taken, an israeli jet shot down a so called UFO over a Nuclear facility in the desert. Whatever this was, it was not of this world.
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Post by uforn on Feb 4, 2011 1:55:25 GMT 1
Someone's gone to the trouble to do an analysis on the 4th video. Poster's Comments: For all you good people with open rational minds I have pooled some resources and made a video analysis of the event detailing aspects of the footage that in my opinion point to its authenticity. However regardless of my opinion I'd like you to make up your own mind using the information and observations I have presented in the video.
Ideally what would seal this event and give it total credence would be some kind of video /security footage in the vicinity of temple mount on the 28/01/11 at the time of the sighting containing the 2 flashes of light, that would be nice! |
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Post by uforn on Feb 4, 2011 4:16:53 GMT 1
Someone claims to have took 2 photo's of this from another perspective. They are claiming it is an orb of a ghost spirit I really dont think these are legit, i think someones done this to try and discredit the video's, whats everyone elses take? Poster's Comment's: I personally photo these pictures. These are real from that night January 28 2011. This pictures proof of real Orb Spirit Ghost over Jerusalem Temple Mount Dome of the Rock. This is not UFO or solid craft. This is Apparition that appear from nowhere and disappear just as fast. There was bright light after I took second photo. There was also red lights high in sky but my camera could not pick up picture because they were not bright enough. Please respect me and my family privacy. I only want to share to the world these magnificant photos. God be with you. |
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Post by meldrew on Feb 4, 2011 13:45:48 GMT 1
theparanormalpastor.blogspot.com/2011/02/ufo-over-jerusalem.htmlTHURSDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 2011 UFO over Jerusalem Now, the Muslim Holy site is also the place of both the Jewish temples, the rock were Abraham offered up Isaac and some say the area of the Crucifixion of Christ. One could say it is the holiest place on Earth, at least to the Judeo Christian and Muslim tradition. So why at this time is this visitor making such a spectacle? Perhaps as some say, it is a divine sign that God is in control despite the chaos which is engulfing the Middle East and the world wide angst of what might happen. Or if you are of the type that believes UFOs are visitors from the future, is it our future descendants getting one last look at this holiest of places before the unthinkable happens? The Middle East is in turmoil. Change is coming. If the Muslim Brotherhood has its way, the entire region would be ruled by hard line Islamists who want to erase Israel from the face of the Earth. We are all collectively holding our breaths, aren't we? Could this be the first bell to toll the end? Another sign for those who believe in the 2012 predictions? If you are a reader of my blog, you know that I am not a believer that the world will end on December 21 2012. Given current events perhaps December 21 2012 is too late of a date for the end of the world... Only the Father knows. Pray for peace in the Middle East. Until Next Time, Pastor Swope
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Post by meldrew on Feb 4, 2011 15:25:32 GMT 1
Star over Jerusalem Posted on February 3, 2011 by Mark Seeing as this video’s making waves I thought I’d throw my tuppence into the ring.
Much as I’d like this to be evidence of something – whether that’s an exciting new military toy, an alien spacecraft or The Truth and Light of The World returning to lead humankind to salvation – I’m confident that it can be filed away in the ‘too good to be true’ drawer as a crafty hoax.
It’s an unfortunate truth that the clearer a UFO video, the more likely it is to be fabricated, and I don’t think we’ve yet seen anything to counter this rule of thumb.
What’s clever about this new Jerusalem footage, however, is that it responds directly to some of the usual criticisms of such material:
- The video is clear and the camerawork is reasonably stable - The ‘UFO’ is simply that, an unidentified light in the sky (that happens to be hovering over one of the most contested religious sites in the world), and not a retro flying saucer or a Predator’s RV - The light behaves somewhat according to pre-established UFO behaviour patterns as defined by multiple witness reports over the years - We see footage of the event shot from different perspectives (as neatly demonstrated by the split screen version above), thus providing the appearance of multiple witnesses. Though if this UFO event really did happen so dramatically and visibly, I would expect to see more footage emerging – CCTV for example.
So why do I think it’s a craftily constructed fake?
For all the above reasons, and because the light itself is poorly matched to its backgrounds – it’s too crisp, luminous and clearly defined, for example, if I can be technical for a moment, it doesn’t leave proper fuzzy trails – even the trails that we can see are sharply defined. There’s nothing organic about the way the UFO and its setting are integrated with one another, they have come from two different sources.
On a narrative note I also think that the American woman’s voice talking about seeing similar things in Mississippi is a little heavy handed on the humour.
I’m happy to be proved wrong and learn that the End Times are upon us (though I wouldn’t be happy about that, more unpleasantly surprised), but I fear that in this instance we’re looking at a well-executed and creative hoax, one that is sure to generate the desired buzz amongst the UFO community, and may even have repercussions in the debate over the site itself.
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STOP PRESS! Reader Robert Dee comments:
that first image is a still with camera shake added to it and the blob comped [composited MP] on top, most likely in After Effects [Adobe video special effects software MP]. You can tell because the lights are static despite camera movement and there is no parallax movement (perspective change) on the moves/zoom – look at the edges of buildings at different distances which don’t change. There is also no camera noise and the image noticeably degrades on the “zoom” like it would do if you were moving a virtual camera into a still in After Effects.
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Post by uforn on Feb 4, 2011 19:01:49 GMT 1
Below are the comments of the poster of video 1, i believe: Hello i am eliyahu, the person who originally uploaded the jerusalem ufo video youtube.com/user/eligael Myself and my friend filmed in the early hours of saturday morning (between 1 and 5 past 1am to be exact) a shining huge orb like object which hovered for about 10 minutes, when we filmed it, it seemed to only about 30 seconds later descend above the temple mount where the western wall is on one side, the dome of the rock the other - both amongst the most sacred places in the world for islam and judaism, it hovered there for less than ten seconds before emitting a flash on the ground underneath, and shooting up directly at the speed of light. after this, there was a load of spinning red lights in the sky, flickering ferociously at each other, this lasted about 30 seconds.
Let me explain something to you, us israelies are not hoaxers, we are not lame people sitting in gardens with nothing better to do than film it. israelies are serious people, they are surrounded by countries full of regimes who want israel at a country destroyed, most israelies unless exempt, join the army for training at 17/18.. your picking the last country to have created a hoax from.
I am jewish israeli myself, born in jerusalem, but moved to the uk with family in the 1990s, i still go to israel once every couple of years.
If i can explain a couple of things about the video. number one - even though its a busy area with people there 24/7 it was stil 1am, hardly the time when anyone is still awake and alert to be filing something silent in the air with the huge western wall in front of them. secondly this was early hours of the sabbath morning, most jews who would have been there would be religious jews who are stricly prophibited by their religion from driving cars using fones etc on their sabbath, so no its not like theyd be `tons of people there with camera ability)
On a very positive note my friend caught some really good footage of the same thing descending earlier, roughly about 25 minutes before we were filming, and he caught it spliting into three orbs and shooting up and down, but no flash that time. He hopes to be getting that uploaded and i will let you know when so.
This has been a very long introduction, and im happy to answer any questions plus you should know too israel is a huge hot spot for ufos, we get them all the time over military bases. |
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Post by meldrew on Feb 4, 2011 21:17:09 GMT 1
ask him this question. why did you post it on you tube, there are some good sites and investigators, who would be able to help you walk through the mine field you have found your self in, and , have the authorities interviewed you.
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Post by mike69 on Feb 4, 2011 22:08:16 GMT 1
I received the information that there is another video;)
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Post by uforn on Feb 4, 2011 22:14:15 GMT 1
I received the information that there is another video;) Yes there is mike but its a crop of video #4 with voices added in, so i havnt posted it
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Post by mike69 on Feb 4, 2011 22:16:08 GMT 1
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Post by uforn on Feb 5, 2011 0:36:50 GMT 1
Here's a couple of video's that the posters are trying to explain the positioning of the red lights: Poster's Comments: This is an explanation of the video of the UFO over the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, Israel. What is most interesting is the red dots that are at the end of this video. The dots always appear in pairs. They allow me to cancel the camera movement. If a dot pair disappears for a moment, then it means next figure. When connecting the red dots they form signs that I then traced for better viewing. So what I did is: I canceled out the camera movement and drew the lines between the dots. Explanation of the drawings. What you see is the finger of God drawing on the invisible cloak of the firmament! So God writes from behind the firmament on the firmament. In the end of the video, he even signs the drawings. It is signed in mirror image in roman letters. You see that he writes in mirror image because He writes on top of the firmament and you look up from below. What he writes symbolically is: I measured you, and I measured and I measured again to my divine standards (1st figure). Look how the geometric lineup of the fold is almost perfect and it is complete. He repeats the first figure three times perfectly. He goes over it again and again, like repeating the word. That is what inspired me to say mene mene mene. Then continues God in the same figure he says: I measured outside my area with another measure and another measure. Then the next figure says: This is how you look. You do not fit in my measurement area and the figure is not consistent. That inspired me to say tekel. Then the last figure says: I will disperse you to the ends of the earth and you will not be found any more. That is what inspired me to write upharsin And then he wrote a hook (what does that mean?) and signed with letters JC in mirror: Finally I think He pushed his whole face against the firmament on the last blob. In this video this moment is only three frames long. So I think that you can even see His face! |
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJLNxOYLDJo&feature=player_embeddedPoster's Comments: Here I try to show how traced figures are extracted from the original video. So you can see by yourself that these shapes really come from this video. I did not make them up They are real. This comes in two parts. This is the first part. Probably Jesus Christ signs these drawings in the end. |
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Post by uforn on Feb 5, 2011 1:16:22 GMT 1
The poster of the forth video has made this comment: "YDMU1 (4 hours ago) i will make a decision if to speak about this event but right now im worried becuse my rights have been injured by a jurnulist who toke my videos and discredit me" |
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Post by uforn on Feb 5, 2011 4:43:17 GMT 1
Just found this on UFO Blogger: Update : 2
Today we have receive another email according to which the maker of Temple Mount video has admitted that his video is a hoax to the Israeli channel 2 news. Still waiting for news link.. |
But which viideo does this refer to? as we already know video #3 is a Hoax! www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/01/jerusalem-ufo-ufo-over-temple-mount.html
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Post by uforn on Feb 5, 2011 20:19:15 GMT 1
Over at ATS they have officially categorised this as a HOAX!. The nail in the coffin over there other than discrepencies in the audio and video parralax (video's on this in the thread) was this screenshot below: The circled area shows a mirror image of the light. Here's a daytime image of the area: It seems that the light mirror image is whats called in photoshop clone stamping. In the daytime pic you cant see where the light would be seen. Seems like this has been a very clever HOAX indeed, all i need to see now is the guys own up to it and no doubt they will have to, as there real names have been found out, plus all the media coverage its just a matter of time i think before they own up. Shame i was expecting this to be real Pic source: www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread658652/pg103
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Post by meldrew on Feb 5, 2011 21:09:59 GMT 1
never mind judge, only a week of your life wasted, put it in the hoax section
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